Sportmen for Trump

Trump is a Teflon idol, and the scary thing is he might actually win the election.

His prior womanizing, which makes Bill Clinton look like a choir-boy. Why is nobody investigating those Olympian days? Surely there must be an angry or disappointed Trump young woman out there who would be willing to talk. Where is the outrage from seeing this man condemn the wife--the victim-- of a philanderer-- while being a bigger philanderer himself? If you have no shame, Mr. Trump, then we should be ashamed if we support you.

His tax returns. . . where are they? Every other candidate since Nixon has released their tax returns. He's under audit? So what!? The IRS isn't telling him he can't release them. Trump hasn't offered whether he's being audited for all prior years, or just a single year; nor has he described the scope of this alleged audit. The excuse of being audited doesn't fly (not even so much as a crippled kite ) except for the years and matters being audited. The audit results aren't important anyway, what's important is what Trump CLAIMED he owed Uncle Sam. Is that claim supported by good evidence, or does it look more like Trump was committing tax fraud. Or maybe he's afraid of the American public seeing how little he actually gives to charity. Yet he's getting away with concealing his returns from the American voter. I may be speculating a bit here, but speculation thrives when starved by lack of information.

The Presidency of the United States of America is the highest office in the world. We Americans have the privilege, right, and responsibility that comes from being citizens in the greatest country on earth, the relative few who pick our president. This Trump character, this candidate for the highest office in the world, has been getting a free pass in the presidency interview process. The people really don't know much about him, except that's he's a charismatic speaker with a powerful, but deceptive delivery. I've seen that shuck and jive, and I ain't buying it.

Who knows what this man would do as the occupant of the Oval Office? Personally, I believe he'll do or try to do whatever he wants to. Give nuclear weapons to South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. Sure, why not. While you're at it, hand out half a dozen to Saudi Arabia and UAE too.

The man is a megalomaniac and narcissist extraordinaire. When he inevitably breaks his campaign promises ("Wall? What wall?), he'll just claim that he was running for office when he made those promises, so they don't count. Hell, he's used that routine before and it worked.
So the answer is in a liar, criminal, and a murder or for the self proclaimed socialist Hemriodal Burn Sanders?????? :V Guillotine:
That's cutting your nose off in spite of your face.
 
I don't object to Trump's personal life, I just think it's hypocritical for him to keep bringing up Clinton's womanizing. Mainly, I object to his demeanor and the reckless things he says. Recklessness is not a trait to be sought in someone with the nuclear button at hand. And I don't take his policies seriously, because I think they're whatever he wants them to be at the moment he's speaking.

But I will mention a few of his policy positions that I think demonstrate his unsuitability for the job. It's by no means an exhaustive list. Remember, you asked for it. I hope you realize that I'm ignoring the guy who only wants Trump cheerleaders in this thread to do so.

Build a thousand-mile wall? And have Mexico pay for it? This proposal barely merits adult discussion. Mexico won't pay for the wall, Congress would never approve the billions it would take to build it, and a wall wouldn't be effective anyway.

Deport 12 million illegals? Just by a snap of the fingers? With what resources? Billions in new spending? Keep in mind that each of these illegals is entitled to a hearing before being deported. Yes, we should crack down on illegals, but Trump's simplistic solution cannot be take seriously.

Default and renegotiate the national debt? Sure, and how would the US ever market its bonds in the future? Keep in mind that most of the existing bond-holders are Americans, many of whom have invested their retirement savings in US bonds. But Trump wants to renegotiate the value of these accounts.

Ban Muslims from entering the US? Blatant discrimination. Maybe we should round up the Muslims who are already here and put them in camps. Most terrorist suspects are caught by tips from the lawful Muslim majority; isn't Trump concerned about losing their cooperation?

Seriously, can you believe some of the words that come from this guy's mouth?

Add to that the whole trade war issue and a list of foreign policy utterances that are beyond comprehension - and that are totally contrary to our historic national interests. I frankly am utterly despondent we have reached the point in our culture and history where these two are our choices. I truly believe that the most important office in the world should be intrusted (that is an important word) to someone with the demeanor and ethical grounding to hold it. Like some others, I would have voted proudly for several of my party's other choices.

The only thing that may force me to vote for Trump is the court. And the 2d ammendment is pretty far down the list of issues which concern me that will be before the court in the coming decade. I suspect that Trump knows so little about constitutional law, that he will be forced to delegate those recommendations. But that is a very, very slim reed for me to grasp in November.

And I am not attacking any of you who have decided that Trump represents your aspirations for this country. But I would ask that you also respect the fact that you have some fellow enthusiasts of our sport who are informed, reasonably articulate, and genuinely worried about the course we seem to be setting for this unique experiment called the United States.
 
I don't object to Trump's personal life, I just think it's hypocritical for him to keep bringing up Clinton's womanizing. Mainly, I object to his demeanor and the reckless things he says. Recklessness is not a trait to be sought in someone with the nuclear button at hand. And I don't take his policies seriously, because I think they're whatever he wants them to be at the moment he's speaking.

But I will mention a few of his policy positions that I think demonstrate his unsuitability for the job. It's by no means an exhaustive list. Remember, you asked for it. I hope you realize that I'm ignoring the guy who only wants Trump cheerleaders in this thread to do so.

Build a thousand-mile wall? And have Mexico pay for it? This proposal barely merits adult discussion. Mexico won't pay for the wall, Congress would never approve the billions it would take to build it, and a wall wouldn't be effective anyway.

Deport 12 million illegals? Just by a snap of the fingers? With what resources? Billions in new spending? Keep in mind that each of these illegals is entitled to a hearing before being deported. Yes, we should crack down on illegals, but Trump's simplistic solution cannot be take seriously.

Default and renegotiate the national debt? Sure, and how would the US ever market its bonds in the future? Keep in mind that most of the existing bond-holders are Americans, many of whom have invested their retirement savings in US bonds. But Trump wants to renegotiate the value of these accounts.

Ban Muslims from entering the US? Blatant discrimination. Maybe we should round up the Muslims who are already here and put them in camps. Most terrorist suspects are caught by tips from the lawful Muslim majority; isn't Trump concerned about losing their cooperation?

Seriously, can you believe some of the words that come from this guy's mouth?
Honestly, these are parts of Trump's plan that I actually like. First, I support the wall more for what it would do to drug trafficking. Drugs are one of the biggest problems this country faces today. If the wall could gut down on even 30% of drug traffic, it would be well worth the cost.

Second, illegal immigration is an epidemic that needs to be curbed. Yes, it will be painful, but it is also necessary to return order to the country. It will take Trump's blunt tactics to force through the proper action necessary to get immigration under control again.

Third, the debt is out of control and if renegotiating unfair values is what it takes, then so be it. Honestly, I would prioritize spending cuts and elimination of the pension system first, but these would be political suicide today.

Finally, as controversial as this view may be, I have no ethical issue with a ban on Muslims. The religion is based on oppression of women and violence against n0n-Muslims and minorities, especially gays. Why should I have to act like I approve of these views or want them in my country?
 
Ban Muslims from entering the US? Blatant discrimination. Maybe we should round up the Muslims who are already here and put them in camps. Most terrorist suspects are caught by tips from the lawful Muslim majority; isn't Trump concerned about losing their cooperation?
Uh I got news for you but that is far from the truth. I am and have been a Police Officer with, unfortunately, a very large Muslim immigrant population in my city. We have roughly 200,000 people and per capita one of the highest Muslim populations in the state. If you take the geographic area then we do have the highest per capita population of Muslim immigrants in the state.
13 years of dealing with these people have taught me a few things. First they absolutely will not cooperate with LE unless they have absolutely no other choice. Then the majority still won't. Second, the vast majority absolutely hate us. Third, you are absolutely foolish to think ISIS cells aren't here. We know, we deal with them. I've detained 4 Recently that were on the FBI terror watch list and was told to let them go. Fourth, we have absolutely no idea who these people really are. Very little if any background info was checked prior to be allowed over here and now that they are here it is virtually no way possible to find out who they are. Five, they absolutely refuse to conform to American society.
If the average American actually had any clue how bad and dangerous of a situation it is there would be absolute outrage. These terror attacks of late are but a drop in the ocean of what is coming if drastic action isn't taken immediately.
 
And I am not attacking any of you who have decided that Trump represents your aspirations for this country. But I would ask that you also respect the fact that you have some fellow enthusiasts of our sport who are informed, reasonably articulate, and genuinely worried about the course we seem to be setting for this unique experiment called the United States.
Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your point but it sure seems that you are implying that those of us who are supporting Trump are ill informed, inarticulate, and not worried of our fate.
If this is the case that's a quite pompous and arrogant thing to say. I have always very much respected your opinions though we may not always agree completely. If my understanding is correct that's the most rediculous thing I've heard this election cycle thus far and that's saying something.
 
Give me a frigging break. No that is not what I am saying, and is an example why politics via a hunting forum is problematic. I suggest you read again what I wrote.

What I am challenging is the notion, articulated by several here, that anyone troubled with the notion of voting for Trump is somehow mentally deficient, headless, a traitor or whatever. And, no, I am not saying that everyone who disagrees with those concerns has expressed themselves in that way. But are you really disagreeing with the tenor of many of these responses?

There are, to my mind, any number of issues with regard to Trump, that are at best troubling to many voters - many on your side. And certainly there can be informed opinion on either side of those concerns. I am simply pointing out, that those who have reservations about a rich reality TV star being POTUS are grounding those concerns in pretty fertile turf.

If that strikes you as somehow pompous and arrogant, well then I guess so.
 
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But I would ask that you also respect the fact that you have some fellow enthusiasts of our sport who are informed, reasonably articulate, and genuinely worried about the course we seem to be setting for this unique experiment called the United States.

And I would take it one step further ... all of us should assume that other informed opinions exist ... and welcome those different opinions when they are offered in the spirit of open communication.

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your point but it sure seems that you are implying that those of us who are supporting Trump are ill informed, inarticulate, and not worried of our fate.

.... and I certainly do not see ANY implication in @Red Leg's statement. He simple asked for respect for different opinions.
 
Stop the money , food stamps, and all other entitlements and they will LEAVE...... Problem solved !!!!!!!

Well while that maybe part of the problem, I would suppose that an even bigger attraction to illegals in the US is work. They are paid cash and often times work for less than American workers. They are hired by large corporations as well as small businesses a crack down here would be most effective. But policing this I suspect would be very costly.

Look I may not be an American and it isn't perhaps my place to comment on this but I personally agree that the US does not to clamp down on illegal immigration. However coming up with a feasible policy to deal with 12 million illegal immigrants is well problematic to say the least and would probably cost in the hundreds of billions if not trillions.

Uh I got news for you but that is far from the truth. I am and have been a Police Officer with, unfortunately, a very large Muslim immigrant population in my city. We have roughly 200,000 people and per capita one of the highest Muslim populations in the state. If you take the geographic area then we do have the highest per capita population of Muslim immigrants in the state.
13 years of dealing with these people have taught me a few things. First they absolutely will not cooperate with LE unless they have absolutely no other choice. Then the majority still won't. Second, the vast majority absolutely hate us. Third, you are absolutely foolish to think ISIS cells aren't here. We know, we deal with them. I've detained 4 Recently that were on the FBI terror watch list and was told to let them go. Fourth, we have absolutely no idea who these people really are. Very little if any background info was checked prior to be allowed over here and now that they are here it is virtually no way possible to find out who they are. Five, they absolutely refuse to conform to American society.
If the average American actually had any clue how bad and dangerous of a situation it is there would be absolute outrage. These terror attacks of late are but a drop in the ocean of what is coming if drastic action isn't taken immediately.

Gizmo,
But that is one of the problems with Trump's policy of banning Muslims from entering the US. Even if he were somehow able to ban Muslims from entering the US, which by itself would be very difficult, how does that address the issue of the Muslims, particularly the radicalized ones, who are already in the US ? There are millions of Muslims living in the US deporting all of them would have astronomical financial and political costs.

Now I digress but one of the major source of funds for Islamic terrorists is Saudi Arabia, it is kind of their cash cow, and it produces many terrorists itself i.e. 17 out of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudis. Yet George W. was rather buddy-buddy with the Saudis and they still are a major US ally. Politics/foreign policy makes strange bedfellows...
 
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Give me a frigging break. No that is not what I am saying, and is an example why politics via a hunting forum is problematic. I suggest you read again what I wrote.

What I am challenging is the notion, articulated by several here, that anyone troubled with the notion of voting for Trump is somehow mentally deficient, headless, a traitor or whatever. And, no, I am not saying that everyone who disagrees with those concerns has expressed themselves in that way. But are you really disagreeing with the tenor of many of these responses?

There are, to my mind, any number of issues with regard to Trump, that are at best troubling to many voters - many on your side. And certainly there can be informed opinion on either side of those concerns. I am simply pointing out, that those who have reservations about a rich reality TV star being POTUS are grounding those concerns in pretty fertile turf.

If that strikes you as somehow pompous and arrogant, well then I guess so.
Well I did indeed misunderstand and I oppologize. You are correct and I do agree that political topics tend to become problematic on forums such as these. I tend to be one that gets heated quickly as I am very passionate about these issues.
 
Well while that maybe part of the problem, I would suppose that an even bigger attraction to illegals in the US is work. They are paid cash and often times work for less than American workers. They are hired by large corporations as well as small businesses a crack down here would be most effective. But policing this I suspect would be very costly.

Look I may not be an American and it isn't perhaps my place to comment on this but I personally agree that the US does not to clamp down on illegal immigration. However coming up with a feasible policy to deal with 12 million illegal immigrants is well problematic to say the least and would probably cost in the hundreds of billions if not trillions.



Gizmo,
But that is one of the problems with Trump's policy of banning Muslims from entering the US. Even if he were somehow able to ban Muslims from entering the US, which by itself would be very difficult, how does that address the issue of the Muslims, particularly the radicalized ones, who are already in the US ? There are millions of Muslims living in the US deporting all of them would have astronomical financial and political costs.

Now I digress but one of the major source of funds for Islamic terrorists is Saudi Arabia, it is kind of their cash cow, and it produces many terrorists itself i.e. 17 out of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudis. Yet George W. was rather buddy-buddy with the Saudis and they still are a major US ally. Politics/foreign policy makes strange bedfellows...
First it stops future radicals from being able to legally enter. Second the answer isn't to go, "oh well let's just let them all in". Thirdly Trump isn't saying ban all Muslims. If you'll listen to him he is saying that we need to stop letting them in until we figure out a system to identify these people and ensure they aren't a terrorist.
For what it's worth your damn right I'd rather get rid of the whole lot to prevent 1 terroristic act if that was what it would take. While I understand that's not feasible you get my point.
I really dont give a rats ass if it hurts Muslims feelings that they aren't allowed into the US. I dont care if it pisses the rest of the world off, who by the way don't want them either hence why they want to send them to us, and I sure as shit don t want anymore of them. Funny how those who rarely if ever have to deal with them on a daily basis are quick to jump to the cause to support them. If I had a magic wand you can bet your farm that I'd deport every last one of them immediately.
As I said they don't conform, they sure as shit aren't tolerant of the Christian beliefs and principles that made this country, and Christianity aside they are very anti capitalist.
So anyone who wants to take on a charity case because they feel sorry for them and want to support their right to be here let me know. I can certainly send a couple thousand Somalians, Iraqis, Pakastanis, Syrians, or afghanis to your neighborhood.
 
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Also Dragon, I got news for you. The vast majority of our immigrant Muslim population are refugees not immigrant workers. So the financial consequence would be that they would no longer be the burden to the taxpayer that they are. Yes in Europe many of them are immigrant workers. Here it is not the same. 80% and I'm being conservative in the estimate are on the government cheese program. Very few, percentage wise, actually work.
 
I have had to personally deal with many Muslims in business over the years, and they are by far the least tolerant group I have ever had to work with. They treat women like garbage and some will not even talk to me because of my name. I am sorry if it sounds insensitive, but these are not the kind of people we want in our country. Yet liberals are quick to defend them because opposing their hatred and bigotry somehow makes me a bigot. I call out injustice and oppression as wrong wherever I see it, and Islam is no exception.
 
First it stops future radicals from being able to legally enter. Second the answer isn't to go, "oh well let's just let them all in". Thirdly Trump isn't saying ban all Muslims. If you'll listen to him he is saying that we need to stop letting them in until we figure out a system to identify these people and ensure they aren't a terrorist.
For what it's worth your damn right I'd rather get rid of the whole lot to prevent 1 terroristic act if that was what it would take. While I understand that's not feasible you get my point.
I really dont give a rats ass if it hurts Muslims feelings that they aren't allowed into the US. I dont care if it pisses the rest of the world off, who by the way don't want them either hence why they want to send them to us, and I sure as shit don t want anymore of them. Funny how those who rarely if ever have to deal with them on a daily basis are quick to jump to the cause to support them. If I had a magic wand you can bet your farm that I'd deport every last one of them immediately.
As I said they don't conform, they sure as shit aren't tolerant of the Christian beliefs and principles that made this country, and Christianity aside they are very anti capitalist.
So anyone who wants to take on a charity case because they feel sorry for them and want to support their right to be here let me know. I can certainly send a couple thousand Somalians, Iraqis, Pakastanis, Syrians, or afghanis to your neighborhood.

First of all I am not "supporting" Muslims or want to be a charity case for them. I am simply questioning how Trump would implement his policies or if he even intends to. Just my personal opinion but he seems to say things for shock value, but then again he has never been president so idk...

And how exactly do you ban Muslims from entering? What if a Canadian citizen who is a Muslim chooses to enter the US? Would the US introduce a questionnaire asking people what their faith/religion is before they enter the country? But how would you verify if the person answered truthfully or not?

There is no shortage of Muslims where I live. And yes you are right a lot of them live off the government- mostly child support because some groups like Somalis tend to have like 5+ kids and they get money for each kid when they are on welfare.

I don't see how other countries are shipping Muslims to the US. Take Syrians/Afghans and the others entering Europe. Germany, headed by Herr Merkel, accepted something like a million of them, Germany has a population of about 80 million. Canada has accepted like 25,000, and the US less than 2000 so far although Obama wants 10K

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sy...hind-its-goal-accepting-10-000-syrian-n552521

Now what Germany did and what it is "encouraging" other European countries to do is beyond idiotic. It is insane to accept that many of them into their country. With zero background checks might I add since many entered illegally. I.E. just look what happened in Cologne:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046
 
First of all I am not "supporting" Muslims or want to be a charity case for them. I am simply questioning how Trump would implement his policies or if he even intends to. Just my personal opinion but he seems to say things for shock value, but then again he has never been president so idk...

And how exactly do you ban Muslims from entering? What if a Canadian citizen who is a Muslim chooses to enter the US? Would the US introduce a questionnaire asking people what their faith/religion is before they enter the country? But how would you verify if the person answered truthfully or not?

There is no shortage of Muslims where I live. And yes you are right a lot of them live off the government- mostly child support because some groups like Somalis tend to have like 5+ kids and they get money for each kid when they are on welfare.

I don't see how other countries are shipping Muslims to the US. Take Syrians/Afghans and the others entering Europe. Germany, headed by Herr Merkel, accepted something like a million of them, Germany has a population of about 80 million. Canada has accepted like 25,000, and the US less than 2000 so far although Obama wants 10K

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sy...hind-its-goal-accepting-10-000-syrian-n552521

Now what Germany did and what it is "encouraging" other European countries to do is beyond idiotic. It is insane to accept that many of them into their country. With zero background checks might I add since many entered illegally. I.E. just look what happened in Cologne:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046
I never said other countries are shipping them to us. The problem is that our government is eagerly accepting the by the thousands. In many cases actively bringing them over here. That's the problem and people here are sick and tired of it.
 
Another thing is your missing the forest for the trees. We aren't saying a Canadian Muslim can't come visit. We are saying there needs to be an immediate stop put to the influx of refugees brought over into this country.
As far as tourists go it should be as the laws in place are. If your on the terrorist watch list you don't come in. If you want to be a US citizen then you have to go through the proper channels. Once here if you commit crimes you are deported etccc.
The thing people are pissed about is that this isn't happening and laws are being ignored in the name of political correctness and future democrat voters.
 
I really have to question the intelligence or sanity of those that have come up with these "sanctuary" laws. If I steal a pack of smokes from the quickiemart, I am a criminal but if I'm a convicted murderer, escaped from a Mexican jail and illegally enter the U.S. and park my butt in San Francisco, I'm pretty much safe to commit more crimes and not worry about deportation.
 
Uh I got news for you but that is far from the truth. I am and have been a Police Officer with, unfortunately, a very large Muslim immigrant population in my city. We have roughly 200,000 people and per capita one of the highest Muslim populations in the state. If you take the geographic area then we do have the highest per capita population of Muslim immigrants in the state.
13 years of dealing with these people have taught me a few things. First they absolutely will not cooperate with LE unless they have absolutely no other choice. Then the majority still won't. Second, the vast majority absolutely hate us. Third, you are absolutely foolish to think ISIS cells aren't here. We know, we deal with them. I've detained 4 Recently that were on the FBI terror watch list and was told to let them go. Fourth, we have absolutely no idea who these people really are. Very little if any background info was checked prior to be allowed over here and now that they are here it is virtually no way possible to find out who they are. Five, they absolutely refuse to conform to American society.
If the average American actually had any clue how bad and dangerous of a situation it is there would be absolute outrage. These terror attacks of late are but a drop in the ocean of what is coming if drastic action isn't taken immediately.

When we are talking about a policy that targets a specific religion is the plan to target Muslims of Arab decent only? Or does it include Muslims of Indian, African or Indonesian decent? For example, will Trump consider that there are roughly 180 million Muslims in India that have lived under a multi-party, multilingual democracy or just the approximately 175 million that live in a very turbulent society in Pakistan. How about those who have grown up as one of the 218 million in Indonesia?

The next President that gets elected has to have the ability to educate themselves on the issues before pushing policy. Just look at hunting policy as an analogy.
 
When we are talking about a policy that targets a specific religion is the plan to target Muslims of Arab decent only? Or does it include Muslims of Indian, African or Indonesian decent? For example, will Trump consider that there are roughly 180 million Muslims in India that have lived under a multi-party, multilingual democracy or just the approximately 175 million that live in a very turbulent society in Pakistan. How about those who have grown up as one of the 218 million in Indonesia?

The next President that gets elected has to have the ability to educate themselves on the issues before pushing policy. Just look at hunting policy as an analogy.
Again, no one is saying that there is going to be an out and out permanent ban. But we are not the world' sanctuary and the taking of thousands of refugees needs to stop. Immigration laws are in place and need to be adhered to. Temporarily there absolutely needs to be a ban until a functional system can be developed that prevents terrorists from entering this country. If that's offensive and hurts the world's feelings so be it. Time to put America and our problems first again.
 
Again, no one is saying that there is going to be an out and out permanent ban. But we are not the world' sanctuary and the taking of thousands of refugees needs to stop. Immigration laws are in place and need to be adhered to. Temporarily there absolutely needs to be a ban until a functional system can be developed that prevents terrorists from entering this country. If that's offensive and hurts the world's feelings so be it. Time to put America and our problems first again.

Then that might have been a misunderstanding or misrepresentation by the media, wouldn't surprise me, of what Trump said. From what I heard he wanted to ban Muslims from entering the US until it could be figured out what the hell was going on. I inferred and the media also seemed to spin it as if he wanted to ban all Muslims from entering the country. This is what I meant was not very feasible or realistic.

On the other hand saying that the US will not be accepting any more refugees/asylum seekers from say Somalia, Afghanistan, etc... because of concerns about terrorists from these countries getting in, until a better system for vetting new arrivals is created, is fine. I can definitely see how that is a sound policy and something that could realistically be done.

As I said before what Germany, the most extreme example, has done with admitting about a million "refugees" mostly Syrians/Afghanis/North Africans is downright stupid and extremely dangerous.
 
Then that might have been a misunderstanding or misrepresentation by the media, wouldn't surprise me, of what Trump said. From what I heard he wanted to ban Muslims from entering the US until it could be figured out what the hell was going on. I inferred and the media also seemed to spin it as if he wanted to ban all Muslims from entering the country. This is what I meant was not very feasible or realistic.

On the other hand saying that the US will not be accepting any more refugees/asylum seekers from say Somalia, Afghanistan, etc... because of concerns about terrorists from these countries getting in, until a better system for vetting new arrivals is created, is fine. I can definitely see how that is a sound policy and something that could realistically be done.

As I said before what Germany, the most extreme example, has done with admitting about a million "refugees" mostly Syrians/Afghanis/North Africans is downright stupid and extremely dangerous.
The kicker is that the US and world media is terrified of him. They, for the most part, are extremely liberal also. This is nothing new. You have a candidate that stands for principals and values that don't meet with their ideals and they perform character assassination. It happens every election. Now Trump has certainly given them ammunition with his outspoken behavior. This being a huge election is the same old business times ten.
Trump certainly was not my first choice and during the primary but now that he is the guy I have chosen to support him as I feel it's the lesser of three evils. I was pleasantly surprised when I started researching him and his proposed policies, which can be found on his website, to see that they are very common sensual and that I agree with the majority of them. Essentially it is things conservatives have been saying needs to happen for a long time. He's just very outlandish in his delivery. I'm ok with that.
 

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