SOUTH AFRICA: Ka Maoto Safaris

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  1. Kellyg

    Kellyg New Member

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    Hello all,

    I've been a member for quite some time but haven't been around much lately due to life. ;) I wanted to make folks aware of a circumstance where I sent a deposit to Louis Loots of Ka Maoto Safari last year for a hunt in June of this year. I found out some things about the operation and did not want to go on the hunt and requested my deposit be returned. There was no contract and no mention of the deposit being non-refundable, indeed, Mr. Loots immediately said he'd return it, no problem. That was November and he gave a lot of excuses and in the end, blocked me from his website and doesn't respond to my attempts to contact him. Just my experience with this particular operation and I highly recommend not doing business with him. Many people have contacted me with similar stories.

    Best to all of ya'll!!

    Kelly
     

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    Sorry to hear.
     

  3. LivingTheDream

    LivingTheDream AH Elite

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    Sorry to hear that, but thank you for posting.
     

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    Sorry to hear that, please keep us informed.
     

  5. Kellyg

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    Thanks ya'll! I've always tried hunting new concessions on my trips to experience more of South Africa and in this case I didn't perform enough due diligence in advance. I just want to prevent anyone else from making the same mistake. Good hunting!
     

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    Saw something similar about this group posted on Facebook a while back. Seems this group has a poor reputation.
     

  7. flatwater bill

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    Thanks for posting a heads up. Raises a question to me, though.....are deposits usually refundable? Never thought too much about it. I went to the website of Ka Moato Safaris and their page says "once your deposit has been received....the hunt is considered locked in." Since you gave them ample notice, I hope you get at least some of the money back........................FWB
     

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    In general the deposit seems to be non refundable...check the T&C's carefully BEFORE sending the deposit. I lost a $5000 deposit from a reputable operator in Zim due to not reading the fine print.
    Shit happens when you're not careful...
     

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    That's why there are contracts or remuneration agreements in writing between between outfitters and clients BEFORE money is paid over...

    If you pay money over without anything in writing well.....
     

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