Curious why you think asking if buffalo charge more with rifle hunts or bow hunts is a bad thing. I never hunted cape buffalo and wanted to know what people had experienced.I’m really finding it less and less difficult to believe you really are that dumb with every post you make. You need to get some more hunting experience.
Then I remember this post you made. It sums up your experience well. Too much reading and inventing ideas.
I assure you a 50bmg isn’t getting deflected by tiny twigs. Would love to see your evidence of that ….
As someone who’s hunted a variety of cat species including Mountain Lion, Leopard, and Lion; there are major differences between each of them. Any similarities between them ends with them being a part of the feline family. Mountain Lion and Leopard are immensely different, particularly in toughness and post shot reactions. Mountain lions when treed/shot don’t want to come for you. Leopards do. Saying otherwise highlights one’s inexperience with big cats, as well as Africa.
Easy to say.
It’s also easy to say for a person that’s only hunted Africa once in the eastern cape in open terrain. There are a lot of terrains and environments in Africa. Many buffalo hunts are going to be in thick brush. You try and thread the needle but it’s not always going to miss everything. A slow heavy bullet is going to give you best opportunity in that case. It’s a very different cartridge and bullet selection than a PG hunt in Namibia or South Africa. I’ve done entire hunts without taking a shot over 75 yards and never having an entirely clear path to the animal. I’ve also done hunts where no shot was under 200 yards in open terrain. It’s just the environment in those particular areas. My most recent PG hunt, the rains game early and the grass grew fast. If you wanted a warthog you are aiming through the grass. No other option.
I was eager to correct someone I thought naive before you proved yourself a moron with this thread. You invented a “common consensus” in that thread to ask your question the same as you continue inventing statements in this thread.
So you have always been an asshat.
In my opinion, the main quality of a hunter is the skill he possesses. It does not matter whether he is hunting in Africa or Lapland, or whether it is the first or last day of hunting. A hunter who has confidence in himself and his knowledge will be more successful than one who relies only on his weapon. A properly placed smaller bullet catches the animal sooner than a hasty shot from an unfavorable position, regardless of the size of the bullet. I prefer to press the trigger only when I am sure of a hit. I've learned that over many years of hunting. No other situation will make me rush and shoot when I am not sure that the animal will be dead immediately or very soon, even if I go somewhere very far for me to hunt. Of course, this does not mean that you should take the 243 to the hunt for an old daga boy, but it also does not mean that you should take an anti-aircraft gun. Light projectiles are not less effective than heavy and slow ones, what's more, I think they are more effective than them. There are a lot of experienced hunters on our forum, so there are different experiences that I am happy to read and respect. I only express my opinion, which I consider to be correct, but in no way challenged by the opinions of other people
be fair spomer also stated on YouTube how he shot a impala with a 375 with a 300gr solid and it ran for hundreds of yards but that his wife killed a eland with it and it went only a few feet. He was talking about how he doesn’t believe in energy on a animal.. he dang well knows that bullet composition matters when your talking about energy but I believe he intentionally omitted that fact to prove his point.. which is wrong. If he had hit that impala with a soft point 235-260grain that impala would have a heck of a hole vs a .375 inch hole.
Guess you’ve never heard of a pelvic girdle shot - very effective on 2 Legged animals with Body Armor as well as 4 Legged ones
Far from the most scientific test.Should You Shoot an Animal Through the Brush?
Most hunters will eventually have to make this decision: Should you fire a bullet through brush at a game animal? Considering how much energy a bullet is carrying, it doesn’t seem like a few twigs and leaves should impact its trajectory. But don’t be so sure. In a recent episode of MeatEater...www.themeateater.com
It was already posted, but here it is again. You can read it or watch the video.
I think that the health condition of the animal is very important when it comes to running away from the shooting ground place. The level of adrenaline that the animal has at that moment is also important (a hit to the head or spine does not count). I also think that whether the animal took in more or less water before we hit it has an influence. In addition to this, I also think that it is important whether the animal is in mating season or not. Those who are lively and naturally more mobile will still take exactly the same hit
Is the pelvic girdle shot like a Texas heart shot? If so it works with a bow to
Yea,yea,yea… but where is your (pushing my glasses up my nose with my forefinger here..) scientific data?
sure all of the above probably matter. But what I’m saying is if you use a solid on a small thin skinned animal and don’t hit bone it will zip straight through. Big thick animals that need deep penetration is the main reason for using solids to hunt certain dg. And many ph’s don’t recommend them for anything but pachyderms with the modern bullets available. Spomer tried to use the example of his possible bad shot on an impala with a 375 300gr solid as a reason that energy is not important. There is a video on YouTube is two guys hitting a coyote at exactly 1000yards at the same time one used a 243 with a 115 dtac and the other a 338 lapua with a 300gr smk and they hit the kill zone on one shot with the lapua and the front shoulder with the 243 and he ran like hell. They had to shoot again to finish him. I’d imagine if they had hit a mule deer or elk that bullet would have dropped them or atleast killed them quick. But a 30lb song dog the speed was low enough and the animal thin enough to let the bullet pass right through. A hole in the vitals will result in a dead animal one way or another. But as you said many factors contribute to a animal dying quickly.
Your opinion is much more scientific and repeatable too. It never changes.
Not a fatal shot, it will require a follow up. Not an ethical shot in my book either. But you do you.
Sounds like you got a lot on the line. You nervous or feeling good right about now?
