Small and fast or big and slow?

[AckleyHunter]

This comment is where your lack of experience in hunting anything in Africa outside of a game ranch really shows.

How are their anatomies different? Both cats of similar size.

You offer no substative arguement or evidence. Just bullshit.

 

[375Fox]

How are their anatomies different? Both cats of similar size.

You offer no substative arguement or evidence. Just bullshit.

I’m really finding it less and less difficult to believe you really are that dumb with every post you make. You need to get some more hunting experience.

Then I remember this post you made. It sums up your experience well. Too much reading and inventing ideas.

Thread 'Adrenalized Cape Buffalo'

May 14, 2026

Cape buffalo are renowned for their ability to shrug off multiple hits from big bore rifles. The common consensus is this is due to them becoming adrenalized after being struck from a big, thumping projectiles. It also comes with the unwanted side effect of said buffalo now wanting to stomp out of existance whatever or whoever was responsible.

That being the case, are there more bad, dangerous encounters with rifle hunted buffalo than bow hunted buffalo? Do arrow shots induce the same adrenaline fueled rage as a 375? I am curious what people's experiences are who have seen numerous...

• AckleyHunter
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• Forum: Hunting Africa

 

[Betterinthebush]

How are their anatomies different? Both cats of similar size.

You offer no substative arguement or evidence. Just bullshit.

Yes, sonny. All I offer is bullshit. Most of us old experienced hunters are graced with wheelbarrow loads filled with (what you call..) bullshit.

But, I am old. And have accumulated experience, which leads to wisdom. I remember being young and knowing all the answers. Got the scars and prosthesis to prove it.

You’ll learn one day. Or not.

I wish you well. Truly. Just promise to file hunt reports.

 

[AckleyHunter]

I’m really finding it less and less difficult to believe you really are that dumb with every post you make.

Educate me oh wise one. How are to cats of the same size anatomically different? Are they made of different meat? Do leopards have adamantium skeletons?

Lay some knowledge on me.

 

[AckleyHunter]

Yes, sonny. All I offer is bullshit. Most of us old experienced hunters are graced with wheelbarrow loads filled with (what you call..) bullshit.

But, I am old. And have accumulated experience, which leads to wisdom. I remember being young and knowing all the answers. Got the scars and prosthesis to prove it.

You’ll learn one day. Or not.

I wish you well. Truly. Just promise to file hunt reports.

How are they different anatomically?

 

[375Fox]

Educate me oh wise one. How are to cats of the same size anatomically different? Are they made of different meat? Do leopards have adamantium skeletons?

Lay some knowledge on me.

Very different temperament and hunting scenarios.

 

[AckleyHunter]

Nobody moved the goalpost. I tried to gently explain when, where and why a DG cartridge should be used in Africa.

This comment is where your lack of experience in hunting anything in Africa outside of a game ranch really shows.


No. ALL leopard attacks are a result of wounding a cat and poor shot placement. It’s already evident you simply can’t listen to reason as to why a hunter is carrying a large bore rifle in the first place while hunting antelope, or cats, or (I wonder) anything else for that matter. Never mind the fact that in most countries that allow leopard hunting a .375 is the legal minimum size caliber.


Who ever said they don’t? I certainly didn’t. I’ve treed and shot mountain lions. Sorry, but it’s not the same as shooting a leopard.

Stay in the sprinklers. You’re out of your depth comparing leopard to mountain lion.

Look at the sumation of your reply. I am wrong because not most, but all leopard attacks are from wounded animals. You say they must be shot with a 375 legally. So every wounded leopard was shot with a 375. 100%.
And you still want to argue that is the best gun. That is matching the rifle to the animal like 375fox likes to do.

Maybe if we have that law in the US we could get more ML attacks because it appears a 375 is unreliable for one shot kills on a 100-150lb cat.

 

[AckleyHunter]

Very different temperament and hunting scenarios.

That is not anatomy. Maybe you need a dictonary.

 

[375Fox]

That is not anatomy. Maybe you need a dictonary.

Alright. I get it. You are content to be a moron. Shooting a paper target in Africa or any continent will be the same. Hunting is not.

 

[Betterinthebush]

How are they different anatomically?

 

[pilar]

Bless your Cackalacky heart , you are tenacious!

 

[grand veneur]

I don’t know why some people are arguing, because as far as I understand it, Ron Spomer’s article focuses above all on the working of lighter lead-free bullets. He write specifically about shooting African PG, however, he could also have written the same thing regarding other game species of comparable size. For example, big deers are no easier to take down than antelopes of similar size.

Since we in Europe are increasingly required by law to hunt with lead-free bullets, many of us use, for internal ballistic reasons, lighter lead-free bullets than the lead-core ones that we used previously, without noticing any significant difference in their working on the game. It is certainly true that lighter bullets often have a higher muzzle velocity, but ultimately, regardless of which bullet is used, what counts is the impact velocity and this often needs to be somewhat higher for lead-free bullets than for those with a lead core, but also not in all cases.

 

[coreydb]

The debates surrounding lead vs monolithic bullets should look to field studies and their comparisons. I know there are many already done, but get them published or on a chart where selection decisions can be made. I am always hesitant on trying out new or different ammo that doesn't already have a track record, because if I shoot and don't kill the animal, I still pay the trophy fee. That makes me wary.

 

[grand veneur]

The title of the topic Small and fast or big and slow direct the discussion in a completely different direction.

 

[AckleyHunter]

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That make leopads impervious to all but a 375and bigger? Besides, according to you, that only matters if you shit shoot them with a 375.

Still waiting on why one cat can be killed instantly with a 223 but you have to use a 375 on the other.

 

[AckleyHunter]

The title of the topic Small and fast or big and slow direct the discussion in a completely different direction.

It has.

Back on point.

Every American going to Africa to hunt plains game will be better served taking their deer rifle, whether that is a 243 or 300 win mag. Something they have experience shooting and are familiar with. Bullet construction and impact velocity is what kills animals, not headstamps. A guy with 5 rounds through a 375 H&H shooting at a $5000 animal is a recipe for disaster

Do not shoot animals in the ass.
Do not shoot animals obscured by brush.
Africa doesn't make animals bullet proof.

 

[375Fox]

The title of the topic Small and fast or big and slow direct the discussion in a completely different direction.

The title doesn’t match the words or article in the post. What do you expect?

 

[Betterinthebush]

@AckleyHunter Please stop quoting me. I honestly don’t care what you do, think or hunt.

I’m going to write this for the final time…

I wish you the best in all your hunting endeavors.

 

[AckleyHunter]

The debates surrounding lead vs monolithic bullets should look to field studies and their comparisons. I know there are many already done, but get them published or on a chart where selection decisions can be made. I am always hesitant on trying out new or different ammo that doesn't already have a track record, because if I shoot and don't kill the animal, I still pay the trophy fee. That makes me wary.

Pretty sure all the data around that says coppers work as well as lead as far as killing goes. They make smaller wound channels, but way in excess of what is needed to kill.

You just need to keep the impact velocity up. So going smaller in weight, and limiting shot distance.

 

[AckleyHunter]

Please stop quoting me. I honestly don’t care what you do, think or hunt.

I’m going to write this for the final time.

I wish you the best in all your hunting endeavors.

One last time. Same to you.