Sharing A 2-Rifle Case

Discussion in 'Before & After the Hunt' started by Aegis, Aug 24, 2015.

  1. Aegis

    Aegis AH Senior Member

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    If my safari buddy and I are each taking only one rifle to South Africa, can we share a 2-rifle case to cut down on extra baggage fees, or do we each have to have a case for our own rifles?
     

  2. James.Grage

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    no to sharing.

    You will each need your own case...
     

  3. bluey

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    not in Australia , you cant .......
     

  4. Aegis

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    Thanks for the quick answers. I figured it was a no-go, but thought I'd check with those who know!
     
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  5. siml

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    Nice quick response.
     

  6. 375 Ruger Fan

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    Everyone will agree that we want to stay legal, but is there a legit way around this? If the two rifles are different calibers and person A filled out the paperwork to import/export both rifles (as if they belonged to him) and person B is basically travelling without a rifle. Person A lends one of the guns to Person B to hunt with. What's wrong with this?
     

  7. siml

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    Person A wants his own rifle and person B I guess as well.
     

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    Simon,

    Sorry, I guess my previous post wasn't clear. As Aegis was originally asking, two people want to bring 1 rifle each and share a gun case. Person B gives his rifle to Person A and then Person A fills out the import/export paperwork as if both rifles belong to him. For this scenario to work, I think the rifles need to be different calibers, as some countries don't let a person bring in two rifles of the same caliber. Would this be legal?
     

  9. Royal27

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    As a side note, I'm pretty sure that most airlines allow two checked bags without a baggage fee being charged. So if you're just doing this to save the fees it is likely a moot point. As always, check wit your airline to make sure this holds true in your particular situation.
     

  10. James.Grage

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    Yes their is a way around this.

    1. You will need to have rifles with different calibers.
    2. You will need to have 4457 filled out for each rifle in your name.
    3. Your friend will need to have duck tape over his mouth when being asked questions about the rifles.
    4. you will need to hunt together, in case you are stopped at a road check. Paperwork should be with you while in the field, i carry mine in the soft-side pouch.
    5. ammunition is limited to 11 pounds
    6. SA520 form to be filled out for both rifles in your name.

    It is not worth it if you ask me.
     

  11. JimP

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    I agree, your big problem would be the SAP520 forms which need to be with you at all times. So if your buddy is hunting 100 miles away which is common and is checked then he would be SOL, and perhaps you also.

    I just kept my paperwork in my back pack which went everywhere that the rifle went.
     

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  13. Aegis

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    Thanks for the input. It wast just a thought, and not really worth the hassle and possible legal risk. We'll each bring our own case and do our own import paperwork. I may end up bringing two rifles anyway, but I figured it was worth asking.
     

  14. Royal27

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    Always worth asking! That is what AH is for. :)
     
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    We did it from Canada without an issue. But, don't ask don't tell. "It is one guys guns, honest".
    Saving the several hundred dollars in extra bag fees was worth it.
     

  16. JimP

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    When I flew out this last May I was wondering about the extra bag fee but didn't worry about it. Then at the check in counter I found that my suit case was 2lbs over, all they did was to tag it as "heavy".

    I flew Delta from Denver to Salt Lake and then on to NYC where I picked up South African Airways to Joberg and then South African Airways to Port Elizabeth with no problems with 2 bags. On the return trip it was SSA to Dulles Airport and then United to Denver with no problems with the second case or weight, but then i had transferred quite a bit of weight to my gun case and carry on.
     

  17. ack

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    My wife and I just returned from Africa with one case and both guns of same caliber...No problem at all..
     

  18. rookhawk

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    I'd be thinking differently. I'd have both of you bring two rifles because one set will go missing and the other set will save the hunt.

    -jaded from past experience. The whole point of bringing a buddy is so you can mooch his spare rifle while yours is lost for the entire hunt!
     

  19. Ado

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    I have shared a gun case from Australia to South Africa three times now without an issue....

    Luck?

    Ado
     

  20. JuneauEd

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    Exactly what we did with a friend who took our 257 and his 3006 plus his bow in one case. No problem!
     

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