Save on trophy fees by paying cash?

Discussion in 'Before & After the Hunt' started by GL1960, May 26, 2019.

  1. enysse

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    The best thing to do on any hunt is to have a budget and stick within that budget unless you can afford extra animals after the main objectives of the hunt have been accomplished.
     

  2. JimP

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    I have seen where outfitters offer a package deal of X amount of animals with the animals listed on the package. Then having a hunter deal on a different animal or two in the place of one or two that are listed in the package.

    But as far as having a animal on the ground and then deciding to try to get a lower price, no way. All this should be discussed with the operator before the trigger is even pulled.
     

  3. Nyati

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    1/3 of the price.....:S Bs Flag:I´m quite sure that if anyone attempted this in Africa, they would be shown the way to the airport.
     
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  4. kevin masters

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    Are you sitting in a lodge drinking a lot, lol that sounds like shit I've heard when guys are slurring their words!:D Booze:
    I kicked his ass, it was this big, she was all over me! LMAO!!!
     

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    I'm going to give the OP 24 hours from his last visit to reply to my request for clarification.
     
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  6. WAB

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    Agreed Brickburn, even if this were
    possible, this type of behavior is beyond the pale.
     

  7. GL1960

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    OK guys, calm down. I was fishing in Hopedale, Louisiana with my son when some loudmouth guy from Arkansas started talking about his friends who go to Africa every year and how they pay cash for trophy fees and negotiate the rate after the kill. I told him that sounded like complete and total bullshit. I posted the original thread in hopes of getting a handful of responses immediately so I could show the guy and quieten him down. But the combination of him consuming too much Jack Daniels and my not getting a response to my question on this forum until after the fact rendered my attempt to "educate" this guy pointless.

    And by the way, Kevin, I don't drink.
     
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    Holiday weekend, been a bit slow. Bad timing
     

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    Yep.... sounds like drunken horseshit..... par for LA
     

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    There's nothing wrong with negotiating trophy fees in south Africa, where the outfitter typically owns the game you're shooting. If, though, this is about telling the outfitter after you've shot an animal that you won't pay the agreed trophy fee, then as everyone has said, not only is that unethical, it's likely fraudulent, and to quote @spike.t, it's a long walk to the airport.

    Having said that, if you see an animal you'd like to shoot if the price were right, and you ask and are told the trophy fee is $X, you are completely free to say that if the fee was .75$X you'd be up for it. Depending on a range of factors (is this a record book specimen, a cull, etc.) the outfitter may well say yes.

    I was hunting in the Eastern Cape some years ago and we came across an old nyala bull with one horn missing. I had the price list of course, but wasn't going to shoot a non-trophy bull for a trophy fee, so I asked the PH if they were interested in taking it off and at what price. He sent a pic to the owner and spoke to him and said you can have him at half price. Done I said, and luckily, we found it again.

    I'd think that 1/3$X is getting pretty low though, and unless we're talking about a cull animal, I'd be surprised it anything was sold at that price. It's not impossible in the case of culls though - a trophy impala may be $700 or so, while a cull impala could easily be $200 or even less. I've shot cull springbok at $95 each and blesbok at $100. In both cases these prices were less than 1/3 of the trophy fee.
     
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    My first safari I paid the balance with plastic and it was a hassle from the bank. Plus they hit me with a 3% handling fee. That was a substantial chunk of change on top of the safari costs. My last two I sent a hefty deposit to secure the hunt and wired the balance as soon as I got home. The wire fee was less than $50.00 and no problems. That is a big advantage to hunting with the same outfitter several times. Trust is developed and it can garner some good discounts. I have never asked for a discount but I do get some breaks. It also negates the need to carry a lot of cash.
     
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  12. GL1960

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    Newboomer, that's very much along the line of how I handled my upcoming safari to SA. I paid for the entire trip upfront plus a reasonable deposit for trophy fees. That way I have to carry a lot less cash or can have my wife wire the funds at the end of my hunt.
     
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    I was talking about the guys running their mouths, lol. sounds like i was pretty close!
     

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    but it came from some loudmouth guy from Arkansas ............

    I believe you owe the entire state of LA an apology.
     
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    Apologies
     

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    Asynchronous platforms are not great for immediate replies.
    Next time you'll have to wait until your buddy recovers :D Passed Out: before trying to call him on his BS.

    Good luck with it.

    I've certainly negotiated before the shot, never after.
     
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    Damn, I was going to try that at Takeri, guess my game is up now!
     
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    Yup pretty typical behaviour from Pakistanis, Afghans, Lebanese, Iranians, Palestinians, Egyptians, Iraqis etc.... They are the sleeziest "businessmen" I've ever met and they love to "renegotiate" after the deal is said and done. I have no idea why Canada keeps bringing in so many of them but maybe our drama teacher PM thinks the country is one giant happy diversity needing"play".
     
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