Velo Dog
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- Africa 7 times. And the USA - most western states including Alaska and Hawaii.
Hello again IronCowboy,
Yours truly is a dreaded "gun nut," as the bawl babies and screeching eunuchs like to call people like me.
Therefore, any excuse to buy another rifle is all the excuse I need.
The above "gun nut factor" is what I understand to be the very reason you want all these interchangeable barrels in different calibers to fit a relatively few actions/stocks/scopes, thereby saving yourself a decent pile of money compared to complete rifles.
However, if I wanted to save as much money as possible (in other words, if I didn't care about collecting rifles) and all I wanted to do was hunt the world's game animals, with my wife as my hunting partner, jack rabbits to bison and doves to elephant, we would have the following:
Only three - center fire rifles, one 12 gauge shotgun, one 20 gauge shotgun, two .22 rim fire rifles, and two .22 handguns - mas nada for the two of us.
All three center fire rifles would be bolt action repeaters (I prefer Model 98 Mausers but, there are other reasonable spin-offs of that design that could do well enough) and two of them would have the highest quality / most rugged scopes on them that we could afford, in claw mounts or properly made lever rings (Alaska Arms are quite good lever rings and also, I like the older model Talley ones as well).
My big game calibers of choice would be:
.300 H&H
.375 H&H
.458 Lott
(Be that as it may, I would not be too unsettled with my long-shooter being a .30-06 or 7 mm Remington Magnum or 7x64 Brenneke / 280 Remington, instead of the .300 but those would not be my first choices, definitely the .300 H&H would be though.)
My wife does not hunt but if she did, and she was fond of elk/deer stalking, I expect she'd do real well with the .300 H&H and 165 to 180 grain bullet, while I carried the .375 and 235 grain to 270 grain (depending on terrain & foliage) bullet as my elk/deer/boar/bear getter.
We could carry the same two rifles if we hunted Africa's so called plains game together, perhaps with heavier bullets, unless hunting the E. Cape or Namibia, then we'd just use the elk bullets as mentioned.
If we hunted dangerous game together, she could carry the .375 and I could carry the .458.
The .458 Lott would be made with iron sights to my specifications and used for things like elephant, hippo on land, buffalo etc. and therefore might not see much action over the years but, extremely useful for heavy/thick skinned game as mentioned, now and then.
If push came to shove, I could after all scope the .458 (with a very low powered optic - 2.5x or similar) and zero said scope with 350 gr to 400 gr bullets, to be used as my plains game rifle, after some heavy/DG was bagged (with the iron sights zeroed to 500 grain bullets), and I still had a few days to utilize on safari for antelopes and piggy wiggy, etc.
That way we'd not have to bring 3 rifles for 2 hunters.
As it turns out, my wife is not interested in hunting but even so, the three center fire rifles I described as my top choices would stand, plus I'd only need one 12 bore shotgun, one .22 rifle and one .22 handgun, .... again that is if I were not interested in collecting rifles, etc., as my main hobby and all I wanted to do was have the least amount of money in my tools with which to bag critters around the world.
Those six firearms would cover all the bases for my hunting needs personally - not much money in those by todays world standard.
For the two of us, we'd only need 9 firearms total.
My ideas are not the Gospel but might save hunters who are not gun collectors, a lot of money and lathe time.
Stay on that front sight,
Velo Dog.
PS:
I do not understand why a "standard" length action is more desirable than a "magnum" length action as they relate to big game caliber repeaters (except that the manufacturer saves a bit of steel on each one they make and steel is money).
Furthermore, I suppose if they convince buyers that newer/shorter cartridges are somehow "better" than the old H&H or Rigby length cartridges are, then more purchases occur - even I do get that part.
Yours truly is a dreaded "gun nut," as the bawl babies and screeching eunuchs like to call people like me.
Therefore, any excuse to buy another rifle is all the excuse I need.
The above "gun nut factor" is what I understand to be the very reason you want all these interchangeable barrels in different calibers to fit a relatively few actions/stocks/scopes, thereby saving yourself a decent pile of money compared to complete rifles.
However, if I wanted to save as much money as possible (in other words, if I didn't care about collecting rifles) and all I wanted to do was hunt the world's game animals, with my wife as my hunting partner, jack rabbits to bison and doves to elephant, we would have the following:
Only three - center fire rifles, one 12 gauge shotgun, one 20 gauge shotgun, two .22 rim fire rifles, and two .22 handguns - mas nada for the two of us.
All three center fire rifles would be bolt action repeaters (I prefer Model 98 Mausers but, there are other reasonable spin-offs of that design that could do well enough) and two of them would have the highest quality / most rugged scopes on them that we could afford, in claw mounts or properly made lever rings (Alaska Arms are quite good lever rings and also, I like the older model Talley ones as well).
My big game calibers of choice would be:
.300 H&H
.375 H&H
.458 Lott
(Be that as it may, I would not be too unsettled with my long-shooter being a .30-06 or 7 mm Remington Magnum or 7x64 Brenneke / 280 Remington, instead of the .300 but those would not be my first choices, definitely the .300 H&H would be though.)
My wife does not hunt but if she did, and she was fond of elk/deer stalking, I expect she'd do real well with the .300 H&H and 165 to 180 grain bullet, while I carried the .375 and 235 grain to 270 grain (depending on terrain & foliage) bullet as my elk/deer/boar/bear getter.
We could carry the same two rifles if we hunted Africa's so called plains game together, perhaps with heavier bullets, unless hunting the E. Cape or Namibia, then we'd just use the elk bullets as mentioned.
If we hunted dangerous game together, she could carry the .375 and I could carry the .458.
The .458 Lott would be made with iron sights to my specifications and used for things like elephant, hippo on land, buffalo etc. and therefore might not see much action over the years but, extremely useful for heavy/thick skinned game as mentioned, now and then.
If push came to shove, I could after all scope the .458 (with a very low powered optic - 2.5x or similar) and zero said scope with 350 gr to 400 gr bullets, to be used as my plains game rifle, after some heavy/DG was bagged (with the iron sights zeroed to 500 grain bullets), and I still had a few days to utilize on safari for antelopes and piggy wiggy, etc.
That way we'd not have to bring 3 rifles for 2 hunters.
As it turns out, my wife is not interested in hunting but even so, the three center fire rifles I described as my top choices would stand, plus I'd only need one 12 bore shotgun, one .22 rifle and one .22 handgun, .... again that is if I were not interested in collecting rifles, etc., as my main hobby and all I wanted to do was have the least amount of money in my tools with which to bag critters around the world.
Those six firearms would cover all the bases for my hunting needs personally - not much money in those by todays world standard.
For the two of us, we'd only need 9 firearms total.
My ideas are not the Gospel but might save hunters who are not gun collectors, a lot of money and lathe time.
Stay on that front sight,
Velo Dog.
PS:
I do not understand why a "standard" length action is more desirable than a "magnum" length action as they relate to big game caliber repeaters (except that the manufacturer saves a bit of steel on each one they make and steel is money).
Furthermore, I suppose if they convince buyers that newer/shorter cartridges are somehow "better" than the old H&H or Rigby length cartridges are, then more purchases occur - even I do get that part.
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