Discussion in 'Firearms & Ammunition' started by gamehunter, Feb 12, 2013.
Hey anyone out there have any knowledge on a ruger 1 .416 rig falling block
And could anyone give me feedback on the ruger no. 1 and the cz 550 in .416 rig as well
Would not own one, unless someone was giving them away. I just don't like the option of having only one bullet in the chamber, especially on a expensive safari.
Now the CZ 550 in the 416 Rigby....BUY THAT GUN. Almost bought one a year back. I own one in a 375 H&H and that is all I really need, with all the Africa countries raising trophy fees through the roof who need to hunt the BIG 5, not me.
Now the only down side i have heard about the cz 550 is that when you get it in a caliber bigger than a .375 h&h that the bolt is really slopy that it doesn't like to be fed fast now is that something cz has fixed or should i still send it off to a good gun smith
If anything, I think the bolt handles tight...hard to cycle. A lot of guys on here will tell you to send it to a gunsmith to get the trigger worked on...etc. Nothing wrong with that either. But I think a lot of the problems can just be worked out by shooting the gun. I have heard the CZ's sometimes have feeding problems...all problems that can be worked on. It's a lot of gun for the money. I have seen them for $1100 to $1250.
Buying a used Ruger RSM in a 416 Rigby would be another option!
Thanks for the help enysse if there is anything else u would have to help me out on planning to get the right rig or even help on when I plan a trip to Africa I would be glad to here it
I am a fan of Ruger #1.
I am thinking about taking a No 1 when I go plains game hunting (With KMG - RSA - I just booked the HUNT!!!).
also, I just saw on Gunbroker, a #1 in 470 NE.
If you watch wild west Alaska on Animal Planet, they just built a #1 in 500 NE!!
The only inssue with the 31 is it's way too pretty with the front sight to put a brake on.
I agree I couldn't see a brake on it. I am a fan of ruger and I know from useing there weapons in the past that they are very reliable and that number one is a very beautiful and strong rifle that you know you can put some very hot loads in it and it will love it. One thing that I like about the ruger is how clean they kept it and how on both sides of the action they did put their emblem on it so it give u the option to put what ever engraving you want or you can just keep it plain
First of all I totally agree with enysse.
I would never bring and use a 1 shot rifle on a expensive safari or hunting any dangerous game no matter where in the world.
On a much cheaper and non dangerous PG hunt, it is totally different.
I think the Ruger 1 is a great gun but with the gun laws here in Norway, limiting the number of hunting guns we can own, I will never own one because the gun is to limiting in my opinion.
I want to be able to take a quick follow up shot on the same animal or another animal even if I have needed a second shot on a animal very few times.
That said, I have seen many hunters that are very SLOOOOOOOOW when it comes to chambering a second round with a bolt gun and to those it doesn't matter at all.
And it is the first shot that should count anyway
I must admit that seeing hunters taking their bolt gun down from the shoulder and some even looking at the action when reloading makes me cringe and I have seen it countless times on hunting videos and on the range.
I think the CZ 550 is a great gun for the money, but usually they need a trigger job.
I prefer the Winchester model 70 Safari Express myself. But it comes in 416 Rem mag from the factory and not 416 Rigby.
A brake doesn't belong on a hunting gun at all in my opinion.
Check this one out Gamehunter:
Cabela's: Gun Library: Ruger Magnum in .416 Rigby
That's pretty much the perfect dangerous game rifle to me. The only way it could be better is if it was a 404 Jeffrey.:tongue:
I have a Spanish client that owns a Ruger Nr 1 in .416. He has hunted 20+ Buff and 3 Elephant with me using only that rifle. It is also his only rifle for plains game. Only one of his Buff required a second shot - excl the final insurance shot that is standard.
He uses that gun for everything and he can reload it in one tenth of a second slower than a bolt gun. The Nr 1 action is extremely strong and feeds any round. That counts for a lot.
I have one in .243Win and is more happy than a pig in mud with it. It shoots +- 1 500 animals for culling every year. No problems - period.
To many people worry about a fast second shot. Just let the first one do the job and the rest is for fun.
"Beware the man with one gun!" Especially if it is a single shot! Knowing a second shot might be slow in coming....you tend to make the first one count!
I agree with you!
I have shot a 416 Rigby with hot loads and unless it's a heavy gun that fits perfect...Oh boy! And I think people in dust, dirt, wind, rain...etc will have problems loading those sausages in the chamber....heck loading them in the magazine is bad enough. And I think with a little practice cycling a bolt action is not "rocket science", I can do it fairly fast. Some people can't cycle a bolt because they haven't shot the gun enough....practice makes perfect and they skipped that step. And I totally agree that the first shot counts the most and a second shot should not be needed if the first was placed right. But since hunting is so expensive, I like to cut my loses and make sure I'm prepared for every disaster. We owe it to the animals to put them down quick and fast.
I am sure you have experienced plenty of clients that have not been able to put the first shot where it should be.
Far from all hunters makes a perfect shot every time.
I have seen plenty of this when tracking wounded animals with my tracking dogs.
There can be lots of reasons for this.
They are bad shots, the "buck fever" becomes to much, the animal suddenly moved or the bullet hit a small branch or whatever.
Things can happen while hunting.
And when it happens, a fast second shot is very good to have in my opinion.
And I am not a hunter that expect my ph/guide to clean up my mess either, so I want to be equipped for it myself.
Your Spanish client might be able to reload his Ruger 1 faster than lightning, but he is very far from the majority then.
I've been to Africa four times and three times I used a single shot. If you practice a little you can re-load very quickly.
I've never missed out on a second shot by using a single loader!
Got a line on two different Ruger #1's. The first is the Ruger Leopard, the Craig Boddington version in 7 x 57. The second is the Ruger Kudu, the CB version in .300H&H. Decisions, decisions as well as severe groveling to the wife!
To the OP, personally I don't think I'd use a Ruger No.1 on DG, but I've seen Mr. Boddington do it. It certainly comes down to as with all DG shots that the first is certainly the most important. But following up a wounded buff, I don't think I'd want to have to think about more than pulling/pushing a bolt fully and quickly.
I have owned a .416 Rigby CZ and everything posted above is correct about them. The same can be said for any similar priced rifle (which often aren't in the bigger calibres CZ offers). A little tuneing depending on the sample you get, goes a long way.
I would hunt Africa again, with a Ruger No.1 without hessitation. For many years I used a No.1S in .218Bee for everything (including a 50kg boar) with great success. There is a mental game it plays with you that makes you take that first shot more carefully, increasing success. In an appropriate calibre, one (pun intended) would be fine.
A local gunshop owner had one in .45-70 and with the No.1's strong action, he had reloads very close to .458WM factory velocitys.
I thank u all for all the input I have gotten on the forum and I do believe I have made my decision on the way I am going to go on this I believe I am going to go with the no. 1 because I am very confident in my shooting ablites and reloading skills and two I like the challenge and of course practice makes perfect so I figure what better than some pesky wild hogs if I can hit one of those from a distance let alone on the run then that's some dang good shot
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