Rimmed (only) Cartridges

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  1. Kharn

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    What's your favorite calibers and why?
     

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    405 Winchester and the 348 Winchester. The 405 was good enough for Teddy Roosevelt, good enough for me. The 348 just like the cartridge, would love to have a Double made in it.
     
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    #1 -416 Rigby #2. John Taylor said it should be so. Just kidding.
    .22 long and or long rifle. I have a .22 pump Winchester I adore.
    4570 govt in a Contender. Caused blood lose at both ends of the gun. Still loved it.
    30-30 Winchester. Took my first deer with a pre 64 model 94 that my dad, his dad, and my 2 brothers all took first deer with. Bought new by my great uncle.
     

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    .45/70, but have designs on obtaining a 9.3x74R.
    The .45/70 out of a Ruger #3, just thumps stuff. Even in a Contender handgun, it executes with authority.
     
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    45/70 because I've been loading for it and shooting it since 1974. A lot of history there.

    32 Special because I have a pre-64 M94 so chambered that my late father bought me from the grave.

    450/400 NE because it is just so darn cute. And it feels right in your hand. And it is a sweetheart...and I have a nice No 1 so chambered, from @farrokhrt.

    470 NE because it is everything the 450/400 is, but with more thump and attitude. And it FILLS your hand!

    30-40 Krag because it really is all a bloke in NA needs for 95% of the hunting we do...and I have a beautiful little No 1 so chambered.

    22 Hornet because it is such a honey of a small varminter and my rifle would shoot sub-moa routinely (but only after I bedded it in Devcon). Deadly little (and quiet) prairie dog rifle that also killed a few coyotes.

    30-30, because you can't have a favorite rimmed cartridge list and leave off the most popular one of all! And even though I have fewer than 400 rounds experience with it, I can tell you it is a sweetheart of a round.

    38-55, because it does with full loads what I used to load a 375 H&H for sometimes...small big game in the woods. And it does it with no fuss and no mess. My Marlin Cowboy in 38-55 was one gentle shooting rifle.

    Those are my favorites, because those are the ones I have loaded and shot a combined 4,118 rounds through - and counting (currently loading and shooting 45/70, 32 Special, 450/400 NE, 30-40 Krag. 30-30).

    I love me some old, rimmed cartridges. :)
     

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    I shoot a lot of 8x56R out of my old Steyr Mannlicher 95/30. So far I’ve only shot hogs with it, but with 208-grain bullets I imagine it would be good on larger game.
     
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  7. Kharn

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    I've got a secondary "related" question but I'll need to make a new thread for it because it's only slightly related to this thread.

    But thanks for all your responses so far, I'm sure more will chime in as they read it.
     

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    6.5x57R, 7x65R, 7x57R, 8x57JR, 8x57JRS, 30-30, .303 and .22 Hornet

    I list these because they are the ones I have used or currently shoot. The 6.5 - 8mm rounds have were and are used in combination guns (typically drillings and OU combination guns) for European and North American game. I assume the other three are well understood by this forum.
     
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    The 303 British because it is such an experienced cartridge that will and has taken everything up to and in some cases the DG I built myself a Lee Speed look alike to house this venerable and still most excellent cartridge
    My other like/love is my 400 Lee Speed which is the .2 shorter 405 Win case so it will fit in the magazine (altered to 6 shot single stack) Lee Speed look alike I built on pre 1900 magazine Lee Enfield

    There is also the 22 hornet that Red Leg mentioned and was very effective in the 3 rifles I had for it.
     
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    an interesting rimmed cartridge is the 7.62 x 74 mm rimmed.
    Meacham tool chambered its Winchester hiwall clones for this round, and also a possible 7mm variant.
    it is formed from the 9.3x74 necked down with reduced body taper.
    suggested speeds for 150 gn bullets are 3560, 180 gn 3260, 200 gn 3190.
    these speeds are using a 28" barrel, quite useable in a single shot.
    while this case is long and thin, and as such not the fashionable short and fat, this has advantages.
    the thinner chamber leaves more meat around the case where the threads are, an issue to consider with some single shots.
    bruce.
     
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    Pretty much between the 8x75RS and the 7x75R Super Express vom Hofe, both commun cartriges in Central europe.


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    KEJ.........you statement about the 45-70 in a contender drawing "blood at both ends" made me laugh. I have a lot of contender bbls, and some of them are just intolerable with full loads. The 45-70 tops that list....:p.............FWB
     
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    Had an interesting experience with the 7x75R - sort of. About 15 years ago I purchased a lovely little Ferlach drilling from an American dealer marked by the maker as chambered in 16x16x7x57R. A couple of weeks after buying it, I took it to the range to sight it in and do a thorough function check with live ammunition. The first rifle shot sounded odd, and as I opened the action, a fire-formed straight-walled case emerged. Stupidly, I tried a second shot - maybe expecting a different result?!? :Facepalm: and obviously out pops another straight-walled case. I immediately called the dealer, who, to his credit, asked me to immediately return the rifle (probably relieved his customer still had both hands and eyes.) Upon receiving it, he did a chamber cast and discovered it had been bored out to 7x75R. The amount of steel left in the shoulder of the chamber was paper thin. I still can't imagine why it didn't let go.
     
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    Probably lowered the 7x57 pressure with the extended chamber and runnung start to the bore
     
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    Never believe anything a dealer tells you... check everything.

    Rifles made or converted in CIP countrys have proof marks you can trust.

    Because of different head dimensions, (diameter of 7x57R is larger!) I can not believe, a 7x57R was converted to 7x75R SEvH AND stood the proof procedures of a CIP proof house.

    Good chances, the conversion took place in a tinkers basement....

    Be happy....you are alive!


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    I am fully aware. I have been collecting and shooting English and Continental firearms for half my life (a long time :( ). There were nothing but the original proofmarks on the drilling, and it was in nearly pristine original condition. This “conversion” into whatever caliber, was done by some shade tree gunhack on this side of the Atlantic. Just think how much throat was removed to leave a straight wall case after firing - particularly on a drilling rifle barrel.

    And you echo my advice about assumptions about older guns and rifles, but I will admit not doing a chamber cast on every new acquisition assuming everything else looks correct.
     
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    My tc in 45/70 with a 15” barrel wasn’t as bad as the 35 rem in a 14”. Bull barrel
     
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    Maybe true..................webspace at my right thumb could not stand full power loads from my 35 Rem bbl either.....but the 490 grain hardcast gascheck in the 45-70 was brutal...........FWB
     
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    I developed a 300gr cast load for the 45-70 using 3031
     
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    My personal favorite is the original .303 British with the 215 grain round nosed full metal jacket " solids " . It's a cartridge that has done it all , from Duiker to Bull Elephant.
     
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