Puma White Hunter Knife

The white hunter is a design I really like, though I have never used one myself. I know a few people have mentioned that the White Hunter is too long for a hunting knife, and I agree for plains game, etc, this would be an issue. But I wonder if it was intended for use on very large game like elephant, hippo, buffalo, etc. I understand the origins of the design coming from the East African Professional Hunters Association, but I have never seen anything that touches on their thinking behind the design.

I mean some of the knives in use in parts of Africa today by professional hunters a BIG knives. I lifted these pictures off instagram. These are made by a South African knife maker and used by a South African PH that operated across a few southern African countries. I mean these a freeking big knives that are legitimately being used on a regular basis by an actual PH.

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My father was a butcher in his younger years and even after getting the farm he/we would do a lot of killing and butchering for the local farmers.

What hunters think makes a good butchering knife is very different from what people in the trade rely on at least in this part of the world.

The white hunter is a basic butchers skinner profile and a 5-6" blade is perfect for long sweeping skinning cuts. You end up either using the large belly for skinning or straight edge just after the choil. The only other knife we would use is a 5-6" boning knife.

As a knife collector and hunter I've used lots of different designs but I've settled on a simple kephart with a 5" blade for most of my hunting and I sometimes take a boning knife if I need to pack out meat.

I did have a modern puma white hunter but I found it far too thick behind the edge, if you can get hold of an earlier made example in pumaster steel they're much thinner and better to use. I never liked the serrated edge and I've spoken to people that have ground them out and been much happier.
 
Yes, you can use it to slash. That's usually it's good for.
But what do I need a knife for hunting?
For killing
For skinning
For butchering

After almost 48 years of active hunting and countless butchering of my game, I'd like to offer this observation:
Regarding killing:
It happens occasionally, and unfortunately, I've had to quickly dispatch a number of roedeer with a neck stab. For wounded roadaccidents, wounded animals in town, or those attacked by dogs, a shot was out of the question for safety reasons.
A simple Mora knife for USD 20 is ideal for this purpose in terms of blade shape and perfectly adequate.
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Someone die hard.
A Puma White Hunter is absolutely unsuitable fot that stab.

With large game like wild boar and red deer, a neck stab is unacceptable; they can still muster forces at the last moment that are beyond your control and can cause serious injury. In such situations, if a shot isn't responsible, you need a sturdy, extremely long knife, preferably double-edged. Our professionals, who go on countless driven hunts for wild boar with their dogs every year, almost always carry such a knife for dispatching game held by the dogs; they rarely use anything else.
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for the chest of bigger game



Skinning and butchering:

Try handing a Puma White Hunter to a butcher who earns his living this way—he'll just laugh at you.
The Puma White Hunter impresses with its aesthetics and the craftsmanship of its time (today's versions are nowhere near what it once was).
Furthermore, I don't believe that the former Rhodesian army, which already struggled with a small budget, equipped its soldiers, regardless of unit, with an expensive knife. There was also an embargo against Rhodesia. These must have been privately owned items.
That knife looks impressive.But honestly, have you ever seen a PH in Africa skin and butcher? I never have, and I've hunted in African countries many times. Often the skinner only had garbage in his hands, and I gave them my knife for it..........


Moreover, during that time, every German hunter would bring a Puma White Hunter this as a tip. Some could have built up a real collection by now.
For me, the Puma White Hunter is like a photo model—gorgeous to look at, but unsuitable for everyday hunting.

Only my 2cent
Most of the Selous Scouts was hunt or farm guys , phs etc so much gear of their own . As Sten Cedergren described his equipment for 3 months selection and fist service . It consisted of clothes on one’s back , web gear with small items in , boots , rifle , ammo , a knife and that’s that.
 
And the Jagdmesser is the most beautiful and well made multiple blade hunting folding knife. Period!
I agree and it is certainly a nice bit of bling. However my Victorinox Hunter XT does all that the Jadgmesser does but it does it so much better. The zipper blade is fantastic, the steel is far better than Puma steel (far far better) and is a fraction of the cost of the Jagdmesser III
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The saw blade on the Victorinox is longer than the Jagdmesser too, much sharper and at a better angle to the handle. The zipper blade on the current Jagdmesser has a rubbish grind when compared to the Puma "Gamekeeper" I posted earlier. Totally different. Also the steel on the Gamekeeper is much better than the Jagdmesser, even though it (Jagdmesser) is a truly German product - unlike Puma's Chinese or Spanish offerings. The gutting blade on the 1980's Gamekeeper is a shallow hollow-grind. I am sure how to describe the grind on the zipper blade of the Jagsmesser! . "Crap" would be in the ball-park .
 
Hopefully you can see the subtle but vital difference. Jagdmesser top, Gamekeeper below.
If you look at where the sharpened edge finishes you can see a distinct difference in the grinds.
The two blades are frankly Worlds apart
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I ordered a Jagdtaschenmesser last year from Puma USA. I wanted one for years so I finally broke down and bought one. It arrived after deer season so it hasn't been put to work yet. I also have a Victorinox Hunter XT. The first time I put it to work I field dressed 3 big bodied Texoma bucks and 2 does in one morning. I have since used it on turkeys and sandhill cranes as well. Very impressive working knife.

Safe hunting
 

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