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Tell that to China and Russia as well??
I am confident that Canada and Greenland are not found of them either. And I am pretty sure Taiwan is on board. Add Ukraine to that list as well and the Baltic

Most countries are happy to do business with other nations, they just don't want threats to their sovereignty, which to be honest, is something the U.S.A. is also very protective of.
 
Exactly, if the US were to truly pull back from the global scene, the other super powers would only be too happy to fill the vacuum. (And I’m not counting the EU itself as a superpower any longer. It can only be considered a superpower if it continues to ally with the US)

I’d much rather have a Western democracy like the US be “imperialistic” and be a bulwark against the other superpowers, than any other.

Not to think even of the absolute detriment this would be to the future of the US itself in the long run.

That does not mean the US needs to or even would want to involve itself everywhere, but turning its back to anything outside of its borders is just childish thinking.

Sorry couldn't resist, the EU mindset is either........"USA doing to much and BAD" or "USA not doing enough and BAD"
 
One of these shorts that clearly puts the scale of the failure of the Russian summer / fall offensive effort in perspective.

 
It's already coming around. Have you not paid attention to the last decade of garbage theatre against Trump. Bogus impeachments, weaponised legal system, completely fabricated disinformation schemes, MSM cover ups, I can go on.

This whole mindset of "we'll get you back" needs to stop. On both sides. But it won't stop, the divide just keeps growing wider and more hateful. I pray it will get better when Trump leaves office, but I fear there will just be a moving goalpost of hatred towards whoever is up next.
Absolutely! How about governing as opposed to wasting time on witch hunts?
 

Sorry couldn't resist, the EU mindset is either........"USA doing to much and BAD" or "USA not doing enough and BAD"

Loves that video!

I’m definitely not in either of those camps, but the “US not doing enough” does bring one disturbing question to my mind: why isn’t the US more actively (now and in the past) exporting their greatest achievement. Not US capitalism, mercantilism, military power or anything like that, but their constitution, bill of rights and amendments?
 
A history lesson

 
Loves that video!

I’m definitely not in either of those camps, but the “US not doing enough” does bring one disturbing question to my mind: why isn’t the US more actively (now and in the past) exporting their greatest achievement. Not US capitalism, mercantilism, military power or anything like that, but their constitution, bill of rights and amendments?
Unfortunately, most of the rest of the world has no concept of any western values or will to accept those values. We have many inside the USA that don’t want to accept those values.
 
Unfortunately, most of the rest of the world has no concept of any western values or will to accept those values. We have many inside the USA that don’t want to accept those values.

Exactly. The template has been constructed for any who wish to adopt it. Few do. Doubtful American “Constitutional Colonization” would be too popular around the globe.

The more I observe the human condition, the less I believe the masses really desire true freedom. Sanitized to their liking, maybe, but not freedom for all.
 
I am confident that Canada and Greenland are not found of them either. And I am pretty sure Taiwan is on board. Add Ukraine to that list as well and the Baltic

Most countries are happy to do business with other nations, they just don't want threats to their sovereignty, which to be honest, is something the U.S.A. is also very protective of.
Yes and my point was that, regardless of Trump for just three more years, we can’t be isolationists when China and Russia are actively courting other countries. I’m quite sure that the USA is the lesser of the evils. It’s easy to bash the USA but we have also done a lot of good in the world with food assistance, medicine and other foreign aid. Trump has reduced some foreign aid but it had obviously become wasteful and ridiculous in many cases.
 
Yes and my point was that, regardless of Trump for just three more years, we can’t be isolationists when China and Russia are actively courting other countries. I’m quite sure that the USA is the lesser of the evils. It’s easy to bash the USA but we have also done a lot of good in the world with food assistance, medicine and other foreign aid. Trump has reduced some foreign aid but it had obviously become wasteful and ridiculous in many cases.
I would go a step further and suggest the USA are not an "evil" in the long view. I think they are great neighbours, I just don't think much of the policies of the current administration.

My concern, which I think is probably like yours, is that the current trend of alienating allies forces those allies into the arms of bad actors for economic reasons. I am hopeful this is a short term problem and not a long term loss for a functional west. China is already all over AFrica with Belt and Road, and I think the west really needs to get in there in a positive way to continue to compete.
 
Loves that video!

I’m definitely not in either of those camps, but the “US not doing enough” does bring one disturbing question to my mind: why isn’t the US more actively (now and in the past) exporting their greatest achievement. Not US capitalism, mercantilism, military power or anything like that, but their constitution, bill of rights and amendments?
Because to export those things you need to export much of the underlying culture that allows those things to be created and maintained. That kind of change takes decades if not generations to achieve.

Just like the U.S. Constitution was a product of generations of thinking and social evolution in Europe.
 
Not likely to be the U.S. either.
Who cares if they do or dont. This is about Canada. If it wasn’t for our relationship with the USA we would be a third world economy. With that backstop we have spent the last 15 years undermining any potential competitiveness, and that has everything to do with us and not the USA. Out of necessity our federal government has gone back to a few Harper era initiatives, and adopted a lot of the conservative platform. Finally NATO is recognizing Harper’s focus on the north is important and we will see some good development there. The only problem Canada has is that we have made ourselves uncompetitive through our v fantasy do-gooder reality belief system and that upsets us. Waking up from a slumber is hard. But running off to a dictatorship to find solutions didn’t work well for Europe and it won’t work for us. I don’t think the USA will lose anything and I don’t care. I would like for us both to win because we are already so intertwined. Oh, and they are a multi-party democracy with the rule of law.
 
I would go a step further and suggest the USA are not an "evil" in the long view. I think they are great neighbours, I just don't think much of the policies of the current administration.

My concern, which I think is probably like yours, is that the current trend of alienating allies forces those allies into the arms of bad actors for economic reasons. I am hopeful this is a short term problem and not a long term loss for a functional west. China is already all over AFrica with Belt and Road, and I think the west really needs to get in there in a positive way to continue to compete.

Western companies can't "get in there " due to all the legislative restrictions put in place to do business in other countries.....China.. Russia don't have any of those restrictions at all....I would say 100% of how Chinese and Russian companies etc get contracts or open businesses over here , and most other continents they operate in would lead to Western companies being fined 100s of millions of usd..gbp..euro .....as has happened to them in the past....they can't operate on the same playing field as the Chinese and Russian bunch do.....
 
Who cares if they do or dont. This is about Canada. If it wasn’t for our relationship with the USA we would be a third world economy. With that backstop we have spent the last 15 years undermining any potential competitiveness, and that has everything to do with us and not the USA. Out of necessity our federal government has gone back to a few Harper era initiatives, and adopted a lot of the conservative platform. Finally NATO is recognizing Harper’s focus on the north is important and we will see some good development there. The only problem Canada has is that we have made ourselves uncompetitive through our v fantasy do-gooder reality belief system and that upsets us. Waking up from a slumber is hard. But running off to a dictatorship to find solutions didn’t work well for Europe and it won’t work for us. I don’t think the USA will lose anything and I don’t care. I would like for us both to win because we are already so intertwined. Oh, and they are a multi-party democracy with the rule of law.
I think you have missed my point.

If the USA makes doing business with them some problematic that typical partners turn elsewhere for business they lose out. And in my mind, so do we, as Canadians, in the long term. But if the U.S. is offering shitty terms and the Chinese are offering better ones...

However, last time I checked, Chinese cheques cash just as well as American ones and Chinese exports have increased over the last year, not gone down.
 

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