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My questions are: under your system, for a postal vote to be valid, is the critical date when its posted or when its received by the electoral authorities? Is there a cut off date? Is it the same across the whole country or does it differ from state to state?


That's the question that is still being asked.

It seams like the states that are doing the mail ballot for the first time have different times. Some want it postmarked by 11/3 others want it in their office on 11/3 others have all kinds of different times.

Where I live in Colorado my ballot needs to be in their office on election day. I dropped my ballot off in a ballot box a week ago and it shows that it was accepted as a valid ballot
 

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Sounds logical but how many of their liberal parents have urged them to use absentee ballots? In my state, true blue Delaware, you don't need any excuse other than the chinese virus to apply and get one.

You ever tried to get kids from today to do something ? Peer pressure, which is gone, works much better than parental pressure.

And, not all of those kids have liberal parents. They will lose votes. How many we will soon see.
 

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You guys probably thought CNN was just jerkin’ their viewers......

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The polls in 2016, had the Liberal media gleefully pounding nails in Trumps campaign coffin.

The look on their faces when Trump hit 270.......Priceless!
 

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Should Trump win, I fear the Democratic party might split into a far left and a more centrist party.

Even if the Bidet and Kampala win the DemonRat party is destined to disintegrate. The left won't be able to handle their success and will attempt far reaching goals. When the realities of their actions sink in to those FDR/JFK Democrats a significant portion of the DemonRats base will abandon the party. They won't go so far as to vote Republican, but they will no longer support the DemonRat agenda. Likely a New Democrat party will emerge. It is possible that the ND party will form agreements with the Rs and seek to get the country back on track.

the main question is whether or not it will be too late to correct the damage done considering the slowness of legislative action to reverse DemonRat policies and the quantity and quality of the US's adversaries seeking to overwhelm the USA.
 

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Even if the Bidet and Kampala win the DemonRat party is destined to disintegrate. The left won't be able to handle their success and will attempt far reaching goals. When the realities of their actions sink in to those FDR/JFK Democrats a significant portion of the DemonRats base will abandon the party. They won't go so far as to vote Republican, but they will no longer support the DemonRat agenda. Likely a New Democrat party will emerge. It is possible that the ND party will form agreements with the Rs and seek to get the country back on track.

the main question is whether or not it will be too late to correct the damage done considering the slowness of legislative action to reverse DemonRat policies and the quantity and quality of the US's adversaries seeking to overwhelm the USA.

I agree with a lot of your points. There is a large percent of good solid Democrats that are being disenfranchised by their party right now.
 

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Very interesting article. And again mentions the youth vote being way down. Sending those kids home from college looks to have not helped the Dems after all.

 

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When the realities of their actions sink in to those FDR/JFK Democrats a significant portion of the DemonRats base will abandon the party.
Ray B,

I think you are being generous in your assessment.. Where are these "Blue Dog" dems that I keep hearing about? Why haven't any of them stepped up to denounce the radical factions and take back control of the party? The answer to that rhetorical question is because they themselves have succumbed to the mob. They have become feckless cowards and shameless panderers to what they think is the current wind direction of their liberal progressive constituency. They are being eaten alive by their own, and to that I say you reap what you sow.
I agree with a lot of your points. There is a large percent of good solid Democrats that are being disenfranchised by their party right now.

Who are these good solid democrats that you refer to exactly?
 

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Who are these good solid democrats that you refer to exactly?

I know a number of them. Many in my extended family that have been Democrats their entire life. Just like their parents before them, and their parents before them, and their parents before them. Democrats who's fathers, brothers and sons were killed by a Republican President. Democrats who's states were torn apart and property confiscated by a Republican President. Democrats who were knocked around and abused by reconstruction, and carpetbagging Republicans. Democrats that were too poor to be "rednecks" and do the whole Grapes of Wrath thing, but instead were the "peckerwoods" who didn't have the money to leave the dustbowl and stayed behind working 18 hour days in the field, only to see crops fail year after year and resort to eating dandelions for their one meal a day.

The CCC and WPA provided just enough to support the family until a crop could be made around 1940, or their sons could enlist in 42 and send a couple bucks back home. They were socially liberal, hard core, FDR Democrats that wouldn't be a Republican if you gave them a years wages.

The stories are different, but there are Democrats just like them in every state in the union. They make up much of the rust belt. Hard working, gun owning, Bible believing, First Amendment, socially liberal Democrats. Democrats that will puke at the mention of AOC, Ilian Omar or Bill de Blasio. Democrats that are sick of being called racists when they aren't. Democrats that hate to see rioting and looting in their cities. Democrats that may not know the details, but know it's wrong for the Vice President of America to get the lead prosecutor of a foreign country fired, who is investigating a company, that the VP's son is a board member of and receives millions from.

These Democrats have been Democrats their entire lives and want to continue to be Democrats. Democrats that don't understand what has happened to their party. Democrats that may vote conservative occasionally, but will never register as a Republican. These are the ones that the current Democrat party has completely abandoned.

These are the good solid Democrats of which I refer.
 

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After the last POTUS election, seeing all the sniveling, crying and hysteria, there are some people that should not be allowed to vote.
 

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I know a number of them. Many in my extended family that have been Democrats their entire life. Just like their parents before them, and their parents before them, and their parents before them. Democrats who's fathers, brothers and sons were killed by a Republican President. Democrats who's states were torn apart and property confiscated by a Republican President. Democrats who were knocked around and abused by reconstruction, and carpetbagging Republicans. Democrats that were too poor to be "rednecks" and do the whole Grapes of Wrath thing, but instead were the "peckerwoods" who didn't have the money to leave the dustbowl and stayed behind working 18 hour days in the field, only to see crops fail year after year and resort to eating dandelions for their one meal a day.

The CCC and WPA provided just enough to support the family until a crop could be made around 1940, or their sons could enlist in 42 and send a couple bucks back home. They were socially liberal, hard core, FDR Democrats that wouldn't be a Republican if you gave them a years wages.

The stories are different, but there are Democrats just like them in every state in the union. They make up much of the rust belt. Hard working, gun owning, Bible believing, First Amendment, socially liberal Democrats. Democrats that will puke at the mention of AOC, Ilian Omar or Bill de Blasio. Democrats that are sick of being called racists when they aren't. Democrats that hate to see rioting and looting in their cities. Democrats that may not know the details, but know it's wrong for the Vice President of America to get the lead prosecutor of a foreign country fired, who is investigating a company, that the VP's son is a board member of and receives millions from.

These Democrats have been Democrats their entire lives and want to continue to be Democrats. Democrats that don't understand what has happened to their party. Democrats that may vote conservative occasionally, but will never register as a Republican. These are the ones that the current Democrat party has completely abandoned.

These are the good solid Democrats of which I refer.
Exactly correct.

I suppose that I was one of those until Regan. I was almost one again under Bush the younger. Our family history is replete with destruction. The original home place in the South Carolina Piedmont was burned by Banastre Tarleton's Loyalist cavalry during the Revolution. Pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and loyal to Jefferson's concept of Democracy, they had rebuilt their lives by the 1850's. They voted against Lincoln and served in gray. One died leading a brigade at Gettysburg and another walked 750 miles home from a Great Lakes prison camp. They came home to find those homes and homesteads looted and burned to the ground by Sherman. By the 1920's the next generation had rebuilt their families and their lives. Obviously, they were still loyal democrats. One grandfather was a state legislator and attorney, the other a carpenter. In '29 their world collapsed again. The home places were sold rather than burned, but my maternal grandfather's family was broken up as his practice collapsed, and the other survived from day to day for a decade. FDR brought them hope.

My father, a well respected southern historian, was one of those FDR democrats. He served his country in combat in the China Burma Theater. He strongly supported JFK, and with reservations supported Johnson. He despised Nixon. I am glad he did not live long enough to have the crisis of conscience that Clinton would have caused him. He hated socialism, believed in this country, and thought of Republicans as a country club clique. He would have despised liberal constructions such as the 1619 project.

Such democrats are still out there. My brother is one. Biden was nominated for the sole purpose of keeping them in the fold through this election. There is nothing about the democrat base that will tie them to that party in the future.
 

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@Red Leg & @Wheels, They lost a lot of those Dems when Clinton signed NAFTA.
 

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I know our American friends are preoccupied (justifiably so) with their Presidential election. However I thought you might find it instructive to hear this morning's news from Melbourne Australia.

The Victoria Police have announced they will be deploying surveillance drones over the suburbs this weekend. The reason: to catch people breaching covid 19 lockdown rules by hosting BBQs with friends or family to watch the football grand final on TV. Police raids and multi-thousand dollar fines will follow.

This is the type of police state response you get when 'progressive' socialist parties get elected. Something for you to consider as you head into your own election.
 

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