Politics

[Wishfulthinker580]

Don’t forget LOTS of old school democrats in Oklahoma that have drank the Kool-aid for generations.

I heard the local baby boomer & trailer park Democrats discussing the election back in 2008 and the topic of conversation would have been shocking to those who are not familiar with the true sentiment of most Democrats…..

“Now I don’t like it anymore than you do, but we got to vote for that N*%*#R in November; remember you was BORN’D a Democrat!”

Yep. My grandpa was one of those. He always said Obama had people above him that would keep him in line and be the power behind the scenes. That was the cope and the mental gymnastics of the day.

 

[Newboomer]

Apparently Georgetown, TX is the fastest growing town in the nation. It is essentially now a suburb of Austin which is also growing exponentially. People are moving here for jobs and other economic benefits such as no state income tax. Most of them come from solidly blue cities and states What is perplexing to me is that though economic reasons play a huge role in the decision to move, those same forces seem to play no role in voting. There, cultural and group values seem to prevail which are clearly no longer geographic.

I'm seeing the same thing here in NV. Corruptifornicaters are sneaking across the hills in droves and bringing their socialist nonsense with them. What used to take about 15 minutes to go from Minden to Carson City now takes up to 45 minutes. We were a strong red state until about 5 years ago. Most of the power and corruption is in Las Vegas and Reno. The rest of NV is pretty rural and conservative. This election is going to be quite interesting.

 

[ActionBob]

Apparently Georgetown, TX is the fastest growing town in the nation. It is essentially now a suburb of Austin which is also growing exponentially. People are moving here for jobs and other economic benefits such as no state income tax. Most of them come from solidly blue cities and states What is perplexing to me is that though economic reasons play a huge role in the decision to move, those same forces seem to play no role in voting. There, cultural and group values seem to prevail which are clearly no longer geographic.

I suspect that when Companies move to places like Texas, the ownership and management that makes that decision may vote more Conservatively. However I'm sure there are many times more workers than managers who move to keep their jobs. They likely keep voting Liberal.

Perhaps Conservatives could reach out with education efforts to point out why those businesses moved and how government policies matter to their big picture, like their job!

 

[LivingTheDream]

I will go a different direction in the predictions, I bet NY goes Red before Texas goes blue.

Remember when Florida was Purple, and we were all scared it would go Blue forever.

 

[Altitude sickness]

There is some good news. Our union work force is firmly conservative now.

The DC union leaders and local leaders are still democrats. But most rank and file Michigan union members. (Excluding teachers) are conservatives now.

 

[ActionBob]

Scenes from our neighborhood

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

What the USA needs is a third viable party that speaks to the centre.

 

[Red Leg]

It is unfortunate that local politics has been increasingly subsumed by national politics and candidates feel yoked to their party’s platform.

I am afraid because of social media, there is very little local politics left. I believe that is particularly true of millennials and to a somewhat lesser degree, Gen Z. This whole conformist movement, which finds free speech - much less an alternative viewpoint - so dangerous plays out in ballot boxes wherever these automatons or cultists live. Their personal devices regularly refresh their conformism.

For someone who came of age in the "do your own thing" decades, these young people more closely resemble chanting Maoists with their little red books than citizens of a nation built upon the ideals of opportunity and individualism.

We are lucky that they have yet to find a real leader.

 

[Dirtdart]

I will go a different direction in the predictions, I bet NY goes Red before Texas goes blue.

Remember when Florida was Purple, and we were all scared it would go Blue forever.

There are a couple of proposed Constitutional amendments ( abortion and recreational cannabis) on the ballot this year that will give some insight as to how long Florida remains a red state.

 

[Tanks]

There is some good news. Our union work force is firmly conservative now.

The DC union leaders and local leaders are still democrats. But most rank and file Michigan union members. (Excluding teachers) are conservatives now.

I actually do not get that at all. After the massive Auto Union contract that favored the union members, I would have thought they would be voting Democrat. The old adage "people vote with their pocketbooks" still applies.

 

[John Wasmuth]

 

[bob meadows]

Sir John Glubb....the fate of empires......read it and see how the timelines stack up with where we are at today......read his bio.......I don't think many, if any at all will disagree with his observations ....bob

 

[Tanks]

Another attempt by Trump to lose the election with his rhetoric.

California firefighters' union: Trump should 'be ashamed' over threat to withhold firefighting aid — Los Angeles Times

Trump threatened to withhold firefighting aid to California as wildfires burned. A firefighters' union called it 'shocking.'

apple.news

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Another attempt by Trump to lose the election with his rhetoric.

California firefighters' union: Trump should 'be ashamed' over threat to withhold firefighting aid — Los Angeles Times

Trump threatened to withhold firefighting aid to California as wildfires burned. A firefighters' union called it 'shocking.'

apple.news

Apparently the Donald isn’t a Swifty either

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...d-trump-hate-taylor-swift-harris/75237181007/

 

[Wheels]

I’m going to make the unpleasant prediction that Oklahoma will be purple in 5-10 years. Emigration of blue state refugees that are fiscally conservative but liberal on social issues, along with all the marijuana related emigration since it’s legalization for “medicinal” purposes a while back have changed things pretty drastically.

I’d also say that Oklahoma has been much more libertarian than strictly conservative. I imagine pot will be made legal for recreational use in the next 4-5 years. This will only serve to exacerbate the breakdown in society and speed the march to purple-hood.

I would respectfully disagree with your assessment of Oklahoma. Oklahoma has a red Governor. Both Senators are red. All Congressmen are red. Even the mayors of Oklahoma's two large cities are red. In 2012 Oklahoma was the only State where every county voted against Obama. I think you would be hard pressed to find a more conservative state in the country. Oklahoma is certainly in the top five.

If Oklahoma is purple in 5-10 years, then America will be long past gone.

 

[Tanks]

Apparently the Donald isn’t a Swifty either

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...d-trump-hate-taylor-swift-harris/75237181007/

I just don't get why he goes there during an election. Everything he says and does should be looked at through a filter of "will this help me or hurt me"?

I have a feeling once the election is over there will be a political science class of what not to do during an election with ample examples of Trump's actions.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

I would respectfully disagree with your assessment of Oklahoma. Oklahoma has a red Governor. Both Senators are red. All Congressmen are red. Even the mayors of Oklahoma's two large cities are red. In 2012 Oklahoma was the only State where every county voted against Obama. I think you would be hard pressed to find a more conservative state in the country. Oklahoma is certainly in the top five.

If Oklahoma is purple in 5-10 years, then America will be long past gone.

I sincerely hope you’re right. That’s just my anecdotal opinion. Everything I see on a daily basis points towards serious societal and cultural breakdown. I think what’s going on here mirrors the changes that have happened in our country since the 60s. This isn’t Mayberry anymore. I really do think we’ve got about a decade left of being in the red.

 

[Wheels]

Don’t forget LOTS of old school democrats in Oklahoma that have drank the Kool-aid for generations.

I heard the local baby boomer & trailer park Democrats discussing the election back in 2008 and the topic of conversation would have been shocking to those who are not familiar with the true sentiment of most Democrats…..

“Now I don’t like it anymore than you do, but we got to vote for that N*%*#R in November; remember you was BORN’D a Democrat!”

The FDR Dust Bowl Democrats were socially liberal but fiscally conservative. They ran Oklahoma, filling all national and most statewide seats till 1976 when the fifth district turned Republican. By 1994 all Congressmen and Senators were Republican.

I have no clue where you hang out in Oklahoma, but by 2008 you would have been hard pressed to find anyone in a trailer park who voted for Obama. Apartment complexes is a different story. In 2012, Oklahoma was the only state where every county voted against Obama.

 

[Inline6]

Pretty crazy that yet another person went after Trump at a golf course.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]