Open sight manufacturers

JPbowhunter

AH fanatic
Joined
Oct 15, 2013
Messages
816
Reaction score
927
Media
50
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Australia/NZ
6
Gday guys,

Long story short I'm in the market to get myself a 7x57 with open sights. I initially wanted to get an older Brno model or even cz 550 but they're rarer than hen's teeth in Australia. I'm now thinking of getting a Schultz and larsen hunter traveller.

The only thing is they come without sights and there's no factory option to include them so they'll have to be retro fitted. I got a quote from a gun smith to install a folding three leaf sight and it was $1000 without regulating them so that's out of my price range. I figure the next best thing is to just get a fixed sight, sight it 2" high at 100m and shoot fairly flat out to 250.

But I have no idea of manufactures of open sights, who's good who to avoid and any other useful information about it.

If folks can make some suggestions itd be greatly appreciated

Cheers
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Ray B

AH legend
Joined
Aug 19, 2016
Messages
2,807
Reaction score
3,442
Location
WA St, USA
Media
77
Hunting reports
USA/Canada
1
The sights on my rebarrelled M70 458 Win Mag came off of the original barrel. It may be possible to locate a rifle or barrel that has the sights that you want, then sell the rifle sans sights.
 

flatwater bill

AH elite
Joined
Jun 16, 2013
Messages
1,907
Reaction score
2,875
Media
24
Hunting reports
Africa
4
Asia/M.East
1
Member of
NRA endowment member/Life member
Hunted
NAMIBIA, RSA, KYRYG, KAZAKSTAN, MOZAMBIQUE,MEXICO, BOLIVIA, PERU, BRAZIL, ARGENTINA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA, SPAIN,
I have beautiful 3 leaf sights on two of my rifles.................they look nice.............but they are useless to me............good hunting...............FWB
 

JPbowhunter

AH fanatic
Joined
Oct 15, 2013
Messages
816
Reaction score
927
Media
50
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Australia/NZ
6
I have beautiful 3 leaf sights on two of my rifles.................they look nice.............but they are useless to me............good hunting...............FWB
I'd love em!

This is to be a pretty much open sights rifle, sorta my pet project.

Just found out the S&L will take 12 months to import so might have to think of another brand. Hardly anyone does a 7x57 anymore
 

flatwater bill

AH elite
Joined
Jun 16, 2013
Messages
1,907
Reaction score
2,875
Media
24
Hunting reports
Africa
4
Asia/M.East
1
Member of
NRA endowment member/Life member
Hunted
NAMIBIA, RSA, KYRYG, KAZAKSTAN, MOZAMBIQUE,MEXICO, BOLIVIA, PERU, BRAZIL, ARGENTINA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA, SPAIN,
JP................I love them as well.............but shooting at game at 300 yards, my age and eyesite irresponsible........just me...................FW Bill
 

Dewald

AH enthusiast
Joined
Aug 16, 2012
Messages
328
Reaction score
569
Location
Empangeni, Zululand
Media
98
Member of
KZN Hunters/ SAHGCA/
Hunted
South Africa, Namibia
Surely there must be a few 2nd hand FNs, Brno Mod 21/22s or older Rugers floating about? That would be the easiest. Obviously a nice .275 Rigby would be first choicse, with a nice little A-type or even a Suhl-Mauser 2nd.

Otherwise Recknagel or NECG make nice sights.

A futher option would be to find a well used or shot out rifle in another standard caliber, salvage the sights and rebarrel in 7x57. Something like an old Husqvarna, Brno etc
 

JPbowhunter

AH fanatic
Joined
Oct 15, 2013
Messages
816
Reaction score
927
Media
50
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Australia/NZ
6
Surely there must be a few 2nd hand FNs, Brno Mod 21/22s or older Rugers floating about? That would be the easiest. Obviously a nice .275 Rigby would be first choicse, with a nice little A-type or even a Suhl-Mauser 2nd.

Otherwise Recknagel or NECG make nice sights.

A futher option would be to find a well used or shot out rifle in another standard caliber, salvage the sights and rebarrel in 7x57. Something like an old Husqvarna, Brno etc
I've been keeping an eye out but they get picked up pretty quickly when they do cone up. Australia doesn't have the number of guns in circulation to have a good number of solid guns popping up.
 

WAB

AH legend
Joined
Oct 8, 2015
Messages
2,963
Reaction score
6,526
Location
Alabama
Media
94
Hunting reports
Africa
5
USA/Canada
1
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
Zambia, Botswana, Mozambique, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Scotland, England, Canada, Alaska, Ireland
I have NECG sights on three custom model 70’s, 7x57, .375 H&H and .458 Lott. They are awesome. An option to get your cost down is to ilhave their masterpiece front ramp installed and then use a QD rear base with a QD peep sight designed for the base. NECG offers one that fits the Leupold QRW base. Talley offers one that fits their own base. This allows you to switch between a scope and a peep.
 

mdwest

AH legend
Joined
Mar 20, 2016
Messages
2,126
Reaction score
4,539
Location
DFW
Media
38
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Mex/S.Amer
1
Member of
DSC Life Member, NRA Life Member
Hunted
USA, South Africa, Argentina, Peru
I've been keeping an eye out but they get picked up pretty quickly when they do cone up. Australia doesn't have the number of guns in circulation to have a good number of solid guns popping up.

does midwayusa or brownells ship to Aus?

If so, they both carry a decent variety of irons (including NECG, which I think are excellent..) at reasonable prices..

I cant imagine shipping costs would be too terribly outrageous.. we're talking about a very small, low weight package..
 

JPbowhunter

AH fanatic
Joined
Oct 15, 2013
Messages
816
Reaction score
927
Media
50
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Australia/NZ
6
Ok thanks guys I'll go with the brand necg.

Next question would be should I go the direction of a standard v or should I try these ghost rings people talk about. The cost of a folding leaf sight has cured me of that idea.

It's a deer stalking rifle so low light will play into it which makes me question the ghost ring. I know with my bow peep sight it just kills light acquisition early morning late evening.

Also which would be better for accuracy to say 200-250m? For arguments sake I'm not suggesting I'm planning on blazing away at animals from that range but I'd like to be competent out to that range for no reason other than being able to.

I have hunt with open sights on my muzzleloader and 22 but never have on a centrefire, keen to get into it.
 

WAB

AH legend
Joined
Oct 8, 2015
Messages
2,963
Reaction score
6,526
Location
Alabama
Media
94
Hunting reports
Africa
5
USA/Canada
1
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
Zambia, Botswana, Mozambique, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Scotland, England, Canada, Alaska, Ireland
Ghost rings are faster and more accurate in my experience. I suspect, given the large aperture that they are as good at low light but I have never really compared. I use both but prefer the ghost ring over the v notch.
 

mdwest

AH legend
Joined
Mar 20, 2016
Messages
2,126
Reaction score
4,539
Location
DFW
Media
38
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Mex/S.Amer
1
Member of
DSC Life Member, NRA Life Member
Hunted
USA, South Africa, Argentina, Peru
Ive only used ghost rings on shotguns before.. but I find them incredibly fast, and have had no problem with them related to low light.. in fact I typically find them easier and faster to pick up in low light situations than I do a typical notch type site.. thats why a million moons ago when I was still on a SWAT team all of our shotguns were equipped with ghost rings (super fast, and easy to acquire in low light conditions)..

Im not sure how great they would be for long shots though.. you were originally talking about folding leaf sites.. I am assuming that means you intend on using this rifle out to at least 200 yards, possibly further?

Maybe ghost rings continue to be accurate at long range? I truly dont know. The longest shot I ever made with them was in training, at 50 yards, with slugs from a short barreled shotgun... but I would think I would be challenged by them on a 200+ yard shot with a rifle.. where a notched leaf presents no problem for me at all..
 

JPbowhunter

AH fanatic
Joined
Oct 15, 2013
Messages
816
Reaction score
927
Media
50
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Australia/NZ
6
Ive only used ghost rings on shotguns before.. but I find them incredibly fast, and have had no problem with them related to low light.. in fact I typically find them easier and faster to pick up in low light situations than I do a typical notch type site.. thats why a million moons ago when I was still on a SWAT team all of our shotguns were equipped with ghost rings (super fast, and easy to acquire in low light conditions)..

Im not sure how great they would be for long shots though.. you were originally talking about folding leaf sites.. I am assuming that means you intend on using this rifle out to at least 200 yards, possibly further?

Maybe ghost rings continue to be accurate at long range? I truly dont know. The longest shot I ever made with them was in training, at 50 yards, with slugs from a short barreled shotgun... but I would think I would be challenged by them on a 200+ yard shot with a rifle.. where a notched leaf presents no problem for me at all..
If I can push out shots comfortably to 200 then yes I would like to, at least on paper.

The folding leaf was my preference but $1000 for installation and then having to regulate them is a bit excessive I think.
 

WAB

AH legend
Joined
Oct 8, 2015
Messages
2,963
Reaction score
6,526
Location
Alabama
Media
94
Hunting reports
Africa
5
USA/Canada
1
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
Zambia, Botswana, Mozambique, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Scotland, England, Canada, Alaska, Ireland
I can group at 3” to 4” at 100 yds w the ghost ring on my .375. I feel like 150 would be about my limit.
 

ChrisG

AH elite
Joined
Jan 6, 2015
Messages
1,039
Reaction score
1,208
Location
Adirondack Park, NY, USA
Media
44
Articles
1
Hunting reports
USA/Canada
3
Member of
NAHC, NRA, Rocky Mtn. Elk Foundation.
Hunted
USA, Canada
Gday guys,

Long story short I'm in the market to get myself a 7x57 with open sights. I initially wanted to get an older Brno model or even cz 550 but they're rarer than hen's teeth in Australia. I'm now thinking of getting a Schultz and larsen hunter traveller.

The only thing is they come without sights and there's no factory option to include them so they'll have to be retro fitted. I got a quote from a gun smith to install a folding three leaf sight and it was $1000 without regulating them so that's out of my price range. I figure the next best thing is to just get a fixed sight, sight it 2" high at 100m and shoot fairly flat out to 250.

But I have no idea of manufactures of open sights, who's good who to avoid and any other useful information about it.

If folks can make some suggestions itd be greatly appreciated

Cheers
$1000 is RIDICULOUS! Unless he is going to silver solder them on and then reblue the barrel. Even then, that is absurd. Call NECG or Williams gunsights. I believe their quotes are usually in the $150-200 range. You can regulate them yourself with a $20 set of needle files and a cold blue touch-up pen.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

JPbowhunter

AH fanatic
Joined
Oct 15, 2013
Messages
816
Reaction score
927
Media
50
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Australia/NZ
6
$1000 is RIDICULOUS! Unless he is going to silver solder them on and then reblue the barrel. Even then, that is absurd. Call NECG or Williams gunsights. I believe their quotes are usually in the $150-200 range. You can regulate them yourself with a $20 set of needle files and a cold blue touch-up pen.

This is australia mate, the land of great rip offs. I ordered a rifle in once and took note of the USA price and it exactly doubled when I paid for it here.

I wouldn't have a clue how to regulate them though. I saw the necg ones don't need to be soldered, I'd have ago if I could do it without stuffing things up
 

Longwalker

AH fanatic
Joined
Apr 2, 2015
Messages
817
Reaction score
1,795
Location
Canada
Media
79
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
1
USA/Canada
4
Member of
Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation, Saskatoon Gun Dog Club
Hunted
Canada, USA, Germany, South Africa, Namibia
NECG does not manufacture their sights, so it seems silly to buy them from the USA when you live in Australia. Instead of buying the sights from the USA importer, why not buy them direct from Recknagel in Germany? I have the Recknagel catalog, very impressive selection.
 

mdwest

AH legend
Joined
Mar 20, 2016
Messages
2,126
Reaction score
4,539
Location
DFW
Media
38
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Mex/S.Amer
1
Member of
DSC Life Member, NRA Life Member
Hunted
USA, South Africa, Argentina, Peru
I’ve used XS big dot sights on my primary CCW pistol for 15+ years..

XS makes excellent products
 

Forum statistics

Threads
37,314
Messages
711,201
Members
66,452
Latest member
MarcellaBa
 

 

 

Latest posts

Latest profile posts

cal pappas wrote on Mnelson2's profile.
Nelson. Is this message a PM format. I want to send you my email, but don't know if this is the cirrect way to do it. I'm at <pappas@mtaonline.net> Send me an email with your phone and I will call you about a skull I have. I went to school in Boston and am from Bernardston in the west part of the state. Moved to Alaska in 1984 adn never looked back.
BeeMaa wrote on Justbryan's profile.
Sold a Blaser scope mount to him. He was a pleasure to do business with.
BeeMaa wrote on 375Fox's profile.
Sold a Blaser scope mount to him. Was a pleasure to do business with.
Tundra Tiger wrote on Alaska Luke's profile.
Hi Luke. Just saw your message. I am in Dillingham, and have been since 2002. I took an elementary teaching gig here, taught here five years, and then got a job with Togiak National Wildlife Refuge as their education and outreach specialist. Recently I just got a promotion and now I'm the Visitor Services Manager. Prior to DLG I spent 6 years teaching for Lake and Pen in Nondalton.
Serbian Hunter wrote on Tundra Tiger's profile.
Hi TT
I am glad you found some useful info in my posts. Hard cast WFN with GC will do the job fine. I trust Veral Smith (owner of LBT company) - I believe that he can provide you with some finest HC bullets. Many companies are coping his design. I can help you from here in developing max loads (40.000psi) just let me know which powder you are using (I use Quick Load software which turns to be very reliable).
 
Top