New Toy Classic Bruno

Discussion in 'Up To .375' started by Mauser78, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. Mauser78

    Mauser78 AH Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    17
    Member of:
    AFA Archers
    New toy ready for the range on saturday. 8x60s, 196gr @2600fps

    image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 13, 2016
    BobT, Witold Krzyżanowski and ZG47 like this.

  2. 35bore

    35bore AH Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,211
    Video/Photo:
    74
    Likes Received:
    346
    Member of:
    NRA,Missouri hunters ed, SCI, Owensville Gun Club, Quail Forever
    Hunted:
    USA, South Africa, France
    Love the checkering. Congrats on your new purchase. Keep us posted how it shoots.
     

  3. sestoppelman

    sestoppelman AH Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    Messages:
    4,532
    Video/Photo:
    80
    Likes Received:
    2,006
    Member of:
    NRA, NA Hunt Club
    Hunted:
    Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe (2), Namibia (2), South Africa (2)
    Thats a beautiful rifle allright. Before the ZKK series. Dont know about the checkered cheek pc. though! OUCH!:nailbiter:
     
    sierraone likes this.

  4. Mauser78

    Mauser78 AH Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    17
    Member of:
    AFA Archers
    The rounds that i am going to test so far. Waiting for my 210 gr. Left to right,196gr, 187gr and 196gr.

    image.jpg
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 21, 2016

  5. DOC-404

    DOC-404 AH Elite

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,261
    Video/Photo:
    57
    Likes Received:
    210
    Beautiful rifle. I once had a lovely Brno in 7x57 which was absolutely deadly with 162gr hand-loads. Enjoy it.
     

  6. Bindie

    Bindie New Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2013
    Messages:
    14
    Video/Photo:
    17
    Likes Received:
    3
    Member of:
    South African HUnting and Game Conservation Association
    Hunted:
    Zimbabwe, Zambia, Botswana, Namibia, South Africa, Mauritius, Mozambique
    We had a rifle I almost identicle to that also chambered in 8x60. Sadly it was destroyed by the SAPS by accident well it was in safe keeping well our competence certificates were in the works.
    @Mauser78 if you ever consider selling the rifle I'd be very interested. Beautiful rifle I hope you enjoy her
     

  7. Mauser78

    Mauser78 AH Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    17
    Member of:
    AFA Archers
    @Bindie, this rifle used to be my fathers, he sold about a dozen when the new laws came into affect, by accident I was talking to a gun shop owner and he saw my other gun and both stocks was made by my dad and he told me he had a 8mm with a similar looking stock in his personal collection and if it was indeed the same one he will sell it back to me, it was indeed the same gun. This time its not leaving the family. I hope the SAPS compensated you some how on your loss.
     
    spike.t likes this.

  8. Mannlicher

    Mannlicher AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2013
    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    69
    Hunted:
    Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, RSA
    The former communist leader of the CSSR ( czechoslovakian peoples republic ) Dubcek owned such a rifle in 8x60 S. Now one of his sons P. Dubcek, a surgeon, is hunting with this rifle. I made the ammunation for this gun, it's a ZG 47.

    Mannlicher
     

  9. Mauser78

    Mauser78 AH Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    17
    Member of:
    AFA Archers
    Mannlicher you can not perhaps give me some info on the ammo i posted. Middle is a Rws and right is DWM. Rws i can not identify whitch one it is and i dont know any thing on the dwm
     

  10. Mannlicher

    Mannlicher AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2013
    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    69
    Hunted:
    Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, RSA
    The RWS is the 12,1 g H-Mantel - RWS is still producing ammunation for the 8x60 S. The DWM is the 12,7 g TR (round nose) - bullet. Vo=788m/s, Eo= 4020 J -from an old DWM -Katalog. The RWS - H-Mantel is listed with Vo= 845 m/s, Eo= 4400 J.

    Mannlicher
     

  11. Mauser78

    Mauser78 AH Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    17
    Member of:
    AFA Archers
    Thanks, you think they any good for hunting? The Rws seems nice, only have 20, but i have 80 of the dwm
     

  12. Mannlicher

    Mannlicher AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2013
    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    69
    Hunted:
    Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, RSA
    The DWM's are between 50 and 60 years old, but no problem for shooting it. My experiences with the old DWM - ammo are without troubles. Quality is equal to RWS. And the round nose - bullet will do it's job up to Kudu / bwb within a range of 200 Yards. The H-Mantel is very precise, but destroying some meat - because of it's copperhead. Both bullets are proofed hunting - bullets - you can use without a risk !

    Mannlicher
     

  13. Mauser78

    Mauser78 AH Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    17
    Member of:
    AFA Archers
    Thanx Mannlicher, the RWS is a hot load. I can get some of that DK (twin core) 180gr over here, but it is expensive. I do not hear anything when i shake the ones i have, do they use a filler or is it loaded to the max capasity.
     

  14. Mannlicher

    Mannlicher AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2013
    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    69
    Hunted:
    Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, RSA
    There is no filler inside. What I know, they are using Rottweil R 907 powder and the load is really hotter than the old DWMs. The last production has the DK(Doppelkern)-bullet - it is precise, but penetration is poor. I know them from the 8x68 S, all users changed to 200 gr NP or the Norma load with the 200 gr A-Frame. For larger pg I wouldn't use the DK.

    Mannlicher
     

  15. Reilly

    Reilly New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0

  16. Milan

    Milan AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    110
    Video/Photo:
    9
    Likes Received:
    63
    Hunted:
    Alberta, RSA
    Very nice rifle. It is not a ZG47. It is a model 21 as others mention (in North America this would be 21h). These are in my opinion nicest Brno repeaters ever made. I really like the carbine full stock version (model 22 - in NA 22f). They are a small ring Mauser action. The later models featured the now standard 19mm dovetail rail. I have an 8x60 in full-stocked model 21. Got brass from Prvi Partizan, looking for some load data. Can't wait to try it.
     

  17. AZDAVE

    AZDAVE GOLD SUPPORTER AH Fanatic

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2013
    Messages:
    795
    Video/Photo:
    31
    Likes Received:
    739
    Hunted:
    South Africa, Alaska,lower 48
    interesting checkering. Have fun and shoot often
     

  18. 8x68

    8x68 AH Fanatic

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2015
    Messages:
    581
    Video/Photo:
    7
    Likes Received:
    388
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    Member of:
    OFAH, CSSA
    Hunted:
    Canada, USA
    Nice but funky checkering!
     

  19. Reilly

    Reilly New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0

  20. Pawprint Safaris

    Pawprint Safaris SPONSOR Since 2014 AH Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2012
    Messages:
    2,586
    Video/Photo:
    653
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Member of:
    PHASA HSC
    Hunted:
    South Africa,Zimbabwe,Mozambique

Share This Page