Discussion in 'DEALS & OFFERS' started by Umlilo Safaris, May 4, 2018.
Are the hippo and croc exportable to the USA? What airport is the closest? What is the observer rate?
Yes, Hippo & Croc both exportable to USA, got the all clear on 3 Moarch 2018 when the ban was lifted.
Meeting point is OR Tambo Airport then we travel together
$175 / day for observer
Perhaps I missed it, (or CITES has not updated the listing), but I can not find CITES QUOTA for 2018.
Brickburn, so are you saying I am offering this hunt with false info?
I made no such accusation.
A few years ago TMS was offering a hunt in Mozambique and without their knowledge CITES had not yet issued quota for the species on offer. After thanking me for the heads up, TMS contacted the appropriate hunting association, who then contacted the appropriate government department. The government of Mocambique had not filed the required documentation with CITES, which was subsequently corrected, and the quota was issued.
Just wondering if this is a repeat!
Francois, I recognize the news release.
Club Mozambique ( a news agency)
or Agencia de Informacao de Mocambique (AIM) Mozambique News Agency do not issue Export Permits.
If you are comfortable with your sources that is your choice. I wish you well.
The document that you provided is certainly not to be relied upon. Please contact CITES to clarify with them directly if the United States has resumed the international trade in Hippopotamus trophies from Mozambique.
Where are we hunting Crocs and Hippos ?
Another operator I contacted about a hippo hunt in Mozambique said they are not exportable.
Who would be the PH doing these hunts? I wonder if these is someone just trying to move someone else's quota and maybe not told the whole truth on all the facts? Maybe it changed but I thought hippo was still a no from Moz.
I can only find quota for Leopard(120) on the website, I have sent them an e-mail, lets see if we can get the facts.
I sent an email to CITES. They referred me to:
Please contact the CITES authorities in Mozambique directly, they will be able to answer your questions. Their contact details are:
Ministry of Land, Environment and Rural Development
National Administration of the Conservation Areas
Mr. Francisco Augusto Pariela
Av. 10 de Novembro, 40
Tel: +258 (21) 34 18 00; +258 827 49 35 00 (Cell. phone)
Fax: +258 (21) 30 63 12
Email: fpariela @ gmail.com
As well as:
Many thanks for your e-mail.
The CITES Secretariat has published on its website the voluntary national export quotas at the request of the CITES Management Authority of Mozambique, copied on this e-mail.
Please contact Mr. F.A. Pariela for further queries.
I did that and have had no reply from Mr. Pariela.
Is Mozambique the only country where hippo isn't exportable?
I have no dog in this fight, @BRICKBURN brought up what happened with me, I had official quota from the government, but government hadn't applied to cities,, luckily Wayne brought it up. Managed to get the paperwork done.
Hippo have been opened. But! Quota allocation is a bit undesirable. No quota Cahorra Bassa and Southern Mozambique.
If I read this offer, I would understand southern Mozambique, you able to drive there from OR Tambo.
Before anyone jumps the gun, simple solution, post the official documents to prove that you have official quota. End of story, then no one can speculate.
Yip, no response from the Moz authorities rings the wrong bell. For the sake of the outfitter offering as well as the hunter wishing to book, it would be best to have a clear cut official answer or document.
The proof is in the pudding. I even tried to phone Francis, no response, sent whatsapp message no response even shows the message was read.
The collective knowledge on AH continues to impress me! Thank you gentlemen!
From: Regina A. Lennox [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: 06 June 2018 11:33 PM
Cc: John J. Jackson, III
Subject: Re: Exporting Hippo's Trophies from Mozambique into USA
You are welcome. As we discussed on the phone, until the end of last year, hippo from Mozambique were subject to a CITES trade suspension. In November, the CITES Standing Committee agreed to lift that suspension.
Hippo are not listed under the U.S. Endangered Species Act but are on CITES Appendix II. Without the CITES Standing Committee suspension, there is no jurisdiction or authority for the FWS to prevent imports. Therefore, hippo from Mozambique are importable to the U.S., and no U.S. import permit is necessary. A CITES export permit must be obtained from Mozambique.
Hope that helps,
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