Model 70-super express vs safari express?

[Rubi_300]

Hi guys,

I am trying to find out what the differences are between the Winchester safari express and super express. I haven’t been successful finding much here or online.

I am thinking about buying a model 70 safari express in 375 H&H but just wish they made a super grade safari express.

I know the super express has been discontinued for some time but I’m just curious what the differences are.

 

[JHT]

In a nutshell, Super Expresses were sort of precursors to Safari Expresses. A couple of differences are their Monte Carlo stocks, the fold down front sight, the soldered on front swivel stud and the glossy metal. One has to look carefully; however, as not all were CRF. They were also made exclusively in New Haven. Hope this helps.

 

[Rubi_300]

In a nutshell, Super Expresses were sort of precursors to Safari Expresses. A couple of differences are their Monte Carlo stocks, the fold down front sight, the soldered on front swivel stud and the glossy metal. One has to look carefully; however, as not all were CRF. They were also made exclusively in New Haven. Hope this helps.

Gotcha, thank you. I love the new safari express but would have to do something about the matte finish. It drives me crazy.

 

[BourbonTrail]

Matte finish is good for not being seen, but personal choice. Other differences: stock on the Super is is more svelte, different recoil pads (red vs black), and triggers are different.

I have a CRF super in 416 Rem, and I really enjoy it. However, at 8lbs 14oz empty with no scope it can be “sporty” from the bench. Scoped it’s robust but pleasant to shoot.

 

[Joker12]

The safari express is double recoil lugged as well.

 

[Newboomer]

The safari express is double recoil lugged as well.

Safari Express 375HH. The only rifle you really ever need.

 

[Joker12]

Safari Express 375HH. The only rifle you really ever need.

Safari Express 375HH. The only rifle you really ever need.

If I can add a good 30'06 or 270 I'll agree but life would be boring with only what we need.

 

[Rubi_300]

Are there any options I might be missing for a bolt action 375? The m70s only hold 3 in the magazine and I see on more Mauser action rifles that have a bigger magazine that’s holding 4. 1 extra round isn’t a deal breaker but honestly I think the bigger magazine looks better imo. I saw there were some “custom African express” m70’s that had the bigger magazines but were in 416 rem mag. I love the way they look. Don’t want to drop 15k plus on a Mauser or Rigby. Just curious if there are some other options under 5k that have the bigger magazine.

 

[BourbonTrail]

CZ 550, Kimber Caprivi, Dakota 76 (7-8k) are some other options.

 

[dgr416]

I have the 416 model 70 with the cheek piece but want a good kevelar stock for it without cheek piece .They are awesome guns fun to shoot

 

[Doug3006]

Another log to add to this fire. A number of year ago, I bought a Model 70 Custom Express in 375 H&H. It was an old stock, new-in-box rifle made in New Haven in the early 90s. Nicer wood, but I don’t think it’s AAA grade. Polished blued barrel , matte receiver, engine turned bolt. It had a long list of custom shop stuff done. I’ve hunted with it twice in Africa and I’m taking it again this June to SA.

I really like the gun, but I haven’t read much about the particular version. Anyone know the story on these guns?

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Another log to add to this fire. A number of year ago, I bought a Model 70 Custom Express in 375 H&H. It was an old stock, new-in-box rifle made in New Haven in the early 90s. Nicer wood, but I don’t think it’s AAA grade. Polished blued barrel , matte receiver, engine turned bolt. It had a long list of custom shop stuff done. I’ve hunted with it twice in Africa and I’m taking it again this June to SA.

I really like the gun, but I haven’t read much about the particular version. Anyone know the story on these guns?

They have a different stock design than the standard don’t they?

Like this one?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/966440490

 

[Scott CWO]

Are there any options I might be missing for a bolt action 375? The m70s only hold 3 in the magazine and I see on more Mauser action rifles that have a bigger magazine that’s holding 4. 1 extra round isn’t a deal breaker but honestly I think the bigger magazine looks better imo. I saw there were some “custom African express” m70’s that had the bigger magazines but were in 416 rem mag. I love the way they look. Don’t want to drop 15k plus on a Mauser or Rigby. Just curious if there are some other options under 5k that have the bigger magazine.

My CZ 550 in .458 Lott holds 5 down. My CZ550 .375 holds 6 down! These are important things to consider for a DG rifle.

 

[Doug3006]

They have a different stock design than the standard don’t they?

Like this one?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/966440490

A bit hard to tell from the pictures. The Custom Express models I’ve seen have the cheek piece, but not the drop box magazine. Here’s a few pictures of mine.

 

[Switup]

I’d take the Safari because I’m a sucker for barrel mounted sling swivels.

 

[Joker12]

I’d take the Safari because I’m a sucker for barrel mounted sling swivels.

The super express also has the front sling swivel mounted on the barrel.