Mannlicher-Schoenauer in 9,3x64

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  1. tunatoy76

    tunatoy76 AH Member

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    G'day Geoff, in Australia also. In the process of putting a x64 together on an FN 98 action, I have everything except the cases which I paid for in February and still have not arrived. Do Bertram do 9.3x64 cases? Do they have distributors or are they direct sales?
     

  2. Pondoro

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    The Swift A frames should be perfect in 9,3x64.. as they are in .375H&H.

    Remington load Swift in the .375 RUM with splendid results..
     

  3. HWL

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    RWS still makes ammunition and cases, but the prices are, as the cases where drawn from pure gold.

    HWL
     

  4. geoff rath

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    I THINK Bertram will do cases; best bet is phone/email them Monday..... I was lucky, only waited about six months.
     

  5. tunatoy76

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    Will try that thanks, cases might be here next month, if not another 6 months. If Bertram don't do them I will probably do a private import from Huntington's
     

  6. tunatoy76

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    I can live with $4.00 a case, problem is the Australian importer for RWS don't really seem interested if it isn't 223 or 308. All adds to the anticipation I guess
     

  7. geoff rath

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    Good luck trying to import from the US, it can be a major pain...
     

  8. tunatoy76

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    Agree, export permit from US around $300 USD, import permit for AUS $? plus shipping, plus cost of cases. That's why I'm okay with $4.00 a case purchased locally, 7 month wait so far and possibly another 6 to go is not so cool.
     
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  9. Gert Odendaal

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    Or you can contact Hansie Minnaar , owner of Stewarts core bonded bullets and drawn brass casing...since our currency is lower than the manners of a farm pig , you will get it for cheap and the brass Hansie is making is of exceptional quality...I do not know of any USA company that will be cheaper than Hansie Minnaar
     
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  10. tunatoy76

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    Will try that if they don't turn up next month
     
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  11. Brian Rothhammer

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    Excellent response!
     
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  12. Brian Rothhammer

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    From the 1954 Stoeger Catalog:
    MS Stoeger 1954 2a.jpg MS Stoeger 1954 2c.jpg

    The full page:
    MS Stoeger 1954 2.jpg


    I still don't get HWL's assertion that the purpose of the additional safety is to unload the MS while in ' a safe condition'.

    The MS is unloaded (by depressing the release button) with bolt open and pulled back. What could possibly be safer than that?
     
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  13. Brian Rothhammer

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    I'd like to see that happen and to have a well written article about it, including histories of each MS involved and with many photographs.
     

  14. Bruce

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    I whole heatedly agree...hunt wuwih it herehin Africa then you can leave it here for me to buy and add to my stable!!:sneaky:
     

  15. HWL

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    Ok, English is not my native language, but i will try it.

    What I meant was not the unloading of the MAGAZINE, but the unloading of a live round out of the chamber.

    A Mannlicher with flag safety has two positions only, "Fire" and "Safe"..... left an right.

    In case you want to unload the rifle, you have to go to "fire", because in "safe" you can not open the bolt.

    With the additional tang safety, you can keep this safety in "safe" and the rifle can be unloaded in safe condition.

    The Mauser M98 had a 3-Position-Safety because of this reason, "Fire"(left),.....you can fire the gun and load/unload, "Safe"(Right),... you can not fire the gun and not operate the bolt(no loading/unloading),......and the "middle"position, the rifle is safe, but you can open the bolt and load/unload.

    To unload a rifle in safe condition is nothing but a safety feature..... in its heydays, Germany hat 8 million soldiers, most of them (idiots:sneaky:) armed with Mauser M98...… every day, ONE IDIOT can kill a comrade while unloading his rifle in fire condition…..

    HWL
     
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    There is another feature of the Mannlicher flag safety most owners do not know…..

    You can block the bolt of an uncocked rifle by pushing the safety forward and turn it to the right 180 degrees

    Now, the bolt can not be opened (and lost) unintentionally….


    HWL
     
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  17. HWL

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    From my cold dead hands onyl….

    (y)

    HWL
     

  18. HWL

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    You have to give Gert Odendaal a kick hard enough, and he will make it happen....

    I would fly around the globe for this.

    For sure, we will see rifles in every caliber Steyr offered in the Mannlicher-Schoenauer.

    HWL
     

  19. Brian Rothhammer

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    'Gotcha' (verstanden).

    I was, indeed, referring to unloading of the spool magazine.
     
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  20. Vashper

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    This Mannlicher has descendants:

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