Latest on CBP form 4457

[Tex .416]

... FYI there are only 2 people that can ask for you stamp, one is an agent with the Treasure Dept. and the other is a ATF agent. the reason for this is the Stamp is a Tax stamp and CBP does not have authority to ask for it even if you are stopped the Police or Game Wardens do not have the right to ask....

Do you have a reference for that you can share?

 

[Hyde Hunter]

Do you have a reference for that you can share?

that was by an ATF agent I was talking ton 3 years ago and he gave me the (26 U.S.C.# 5841)

 

[TnKen]

The agent in Bozeman wouldn’t list my brother in laws two weeks ago.

 

[jpr9954]

On my trip in May, I bought (and left) a suppressor in South Africa. I just didn't want to go with the hassle of "maybe yes it is OK and legal, and maybe no it isn't".

That said, I have heard from my friends at the American Suppressor Association that suppressors are in the process of being moved from the US State Department's US Munitions List or ITAR to the Commerce Department's Export Administration Regulations. This should make it easier to travel out of the country with suppressors.

 

[Justin D.]

I went and had my 4457 certified 2 or 3 weeks ago in Nashville and they had zero issues signing off on it. They said just make sure you have your Form 4 when you come back into the country. Other than that, zero issues.

I'd be willing to bet money that if you went back and tried to get them certified again and have another CBP agent, there will be zero issues. It's just like checking guns with airlines. Half the time I'm quoting the airlines own rules to the ticket agent and walking them through the process myself because they don't know.

 

[Nicaburns]

This is a recurring oddity to Atlanta. My friends and I have gone to Greenville, SC and Chattanooga offices to get our forms done. Not because we must have the supressor on the form but because we WANT the supressor on the form.
Atlanta simply won’t do a form with them included but no other office seems to have any issues with them. I was told in Atlanta directly that “it is a form ONLY for the firearm” but that is certainly not what the form says, and I don’t want to wind up with a stickler agent on the return trip who tries to claim that I am bringing back an undeclared item. I don’t want to get caught between the agent who demands it not be included and some agent who demands it is. (I also carry a separate form for my binos and such... the form is for declaring goods of value to verify that you did not purchase them abroad and are trying to bring them in without customs duties.)
So, were my cans checked during my June trip? No…. But I felt better knowing that they were on the form.

 

[DLSJR]

I went to Sacramento (SMF) yesterday to get updated 4457’s for 3 of my rifles. I had filled the forms out ahead of time to save the CBP officer the trouble. When I handed him the forms he noted that I did not have the scopes listed. I told him I’ve always been told by other CBP agents to not to bother including the scope. This agent said I needed to have the scope on there for my own benefit and he wrote them in for me. Even doing that for 3 rifles, I was out of there in about 5 minutes.

The CBP agents in Sacramento have always been easy to work with. Good guys, friendly and efficient. You have to make an appointment, no walk-ins, but I’ve never had any issues getting in & out quickly.