Kenya Hunting Brochure 1976!

[dchum]

And that’s with Bert as the broker/hunt booker charging his prices! I’m sure he charged a premium.

I bet if you could get a hold of the actual Kenyan outfitter price sheet in EA shillings it would be even cheaper!

There is some old Ker and Downey price sheets from Tanganyika that are just crazy cheap.

 

[Foxi]

good old times,but its an illusion.Fewer people than today could afford these prices
The average houshold income in 1975 in USA it was total $ 11.800.- !!!!!
You dont get a free roaming buff for that today.
I had a friend who has hunted in CAR 1955.
On his license stood 20 buffaloes and four elephants.........
Everthing is going more expensive and the list of our game is going down.
Carpe diem fellows .Only your heirs will pay the costs anyway
Foxi

 

[375Fox]

And that’s with Bert as the broker/hunt booker charging his prices! I’m sure he charged a premium.

I bet if you could get a hold of the actual Kenyan outfitter price sheet in EA shillings it would be even cheaper!

There is some old Ker and Downey price sheets from Tanganyika that are just crazy cheap.

I’m sure but it would also be very difficult to get ahold of an outfitter in Africa those days. Using an agent was probably most realistic way to book. Landline only with no answering machine or letters through the mail. Pretty easy to take for granted how easy travel is today and the internet has made things.

 

[375Fox]

Ok so for a 35 day Safari with 1x1 PH + Buffalo, Leopard, Male Lion & Black Rhino = $97,443.88

Not seeing a price for Elephant & Hippo but the brochure says "All animals in the big 5"
It also says that transport to and from airport and hotel are included.


Right!

I ran the same numbers to see what the prices are in today’s dollars. Not as cheap as people think. The trophy fees were definitely a deal compared to today though.

 

[Pablo]

And that’s with Bert as the broker/hunt booker charging his prices! I’m sure he charged a premium.

I bet if you could get a hold of the actual Kenyan outfitter price sheet in EA shillings it would be even cheaper!

There is some old Ker and Downey price sheets from Tanganyika that are just crazy cheap.

Our friend Jimmy Y used to hunt with Bert in Pearsall. Said a lot of ‘09ers booked with him.

 

[dchum]

Our friend Jimmy Y used to hunt with Bert in Pearsall. Said a lot of ‘09ers booked with him.

That they did, he sent lots of those folks to hunt TZ with the Pasanisi family.

Wish I got to meet Bert!

 

[deewayne2003]

I ran the same numbers to see what the prices are in today’s dollars. Not as cheap as people think. The trophy fees were definitely a deal compared to today though.

Exactly, Daily fees seem to be on par with Tanzania currently - but the trophy fees are an eye opener.

Trophy fees adjusted for inflation (shows rough current pricing)
Black Rhino $13,500 (Last time I heard of a black rhino hunt being sold it went for north of $500K)
Bongo $1,700! ($6,000 + $40K daily fees)
Leopard $7,000 ($8,000 no mention of bait cost - possibly included)*
Lion(male) $6,500 ($25,000 Cheapest I could find for non CBL + $40K daily)**
Buffalo $900 ($6,000)
Crocodile $175! ($6,000)

*If you look at the top of the itemized list you'll see the first 7 animals are included with the license so no fee.
**Price a good free range lion hunt your at $100K+

 

[375Fox]

Exactly, Daily fees seem to be on par with Tanzania currently - but the trophy fees are an eye opener.

Trophy fees adjusted for inflation (shows rough current pricing)
Black Rhino $13,500 (Last time I heard of a black rhino hunt being sold it went for north of $500K)
Bongo $1,700! ($6,000 + $40K daily fees)
Leopard $7,000 ($8,000 no mention of bait cost - possibly included)*
Lion(male) $6,500 ($25,000 Cheapest I could find for non CBL + $40K daily)**
Buffalo $900 ($6,000)
Crocodile $175! ($6,000)

*If you look at the top of the itemized list you'll see the first 7 animals are included with the license so no fee.
**Price a good free range lion hunt your at $100K+

I do have to wonder what the success rates were? And on trophies we would consider trophies now? Being on license for your hunt and being successful are two very different things. There were a lot more soft boss bulls shot and younger lions taken than today. I’m not even sure there were dedicated concessions then? Just open areas anyone could hunt?

 

[dchum]

I do have to wonder what the success rates were? And on trophies we would consider trophies now? Being on license for your hunt and being successful are two very different things. There were a lot more soft boss bulls shot and younger lions taken than today. I’m not even sure there were dedicated concessions then? Just open areas anyone could hunt?

By that time 1976, there were concessions or blocks in Kenya, but still a new concept to the business. They would be held by safari companies not much different than some systems today.

I am No expert obviously! But I did just finish Brian Herne’s “white hunters”.
And it is littered with amazing first hand information you can’t read anywhere else.
Super book for the African nerd.

 

[375Fox]

By that time 1976, there were concessions or blocks in Kenya, but still a new concept to the business. They would be held by safari companies not much different than some systems today.

I am No expert obviously! But I did just finish Brian Herne’s “white hunters”.
And it is littered with amazing first hand information you can’t read anywhere else.
Super book for the African nerd.

That’s a book I couldn’t enjoy reading for whatever reason. I think I’ll have to open Bert klineberger’s book and look at his Kenya chapters again. I have Jay Mellon’s book African hunter also.

 

[deewayne2003]

I do have to wonder what the success rates were? And on trophies we would consider trophies now? Being on license for your hunt and being successful are two very different things. There were a lot more soft boss bulls shot and younger lions taken than today. I’m not even sure there were dedicated concessions then? Just open areas anyone could hunt?

Valid points and another variable with the concessions; but one thing we all know..........

The Human population of Africa was much lower than it is today; so I'd be willing to bet the density of game was much higher as well as more un occupied wilderness.

As for their success rate; I'd be willing to bet it was high.

"Would we consider them trophies now?"....... Hell I'd just like to be able to see a Black rhino in the wild!
Barring the soft boss buffs you see in the old pictures; I haven't seen many old pics with small animals unless it's a commercial hunting picture where they have them all piled up.

Hell in Tony Sanchez Arino's book he's got all sorts of pics from back in the day, posing with everything from 100lbs elephants to massive Gorillas.

 

[Wheels]

Enjoy seeing all the old stuff like this.

Appreciate you posting

 

[dchum]

That’s a book I couldn’t enjoy reading for whatever reason. I think I’ll have to open Bert klineberger’s book and look at his Kenya chapters again. I have Jay Mellon’s book African hunter also.

Try listening to it, sometimes when a book won’t flow for me I find the narrator on an audio version can bring it life for me!

All these men lived a full life that’s for sure!

Cheers

 

[Shakka]

And remember, many of the old time PH's were still around in 1976

 

[wildwilderness]

Ok so for a 35 day Safari with 1x1 PH + Buffalo, Leopard, Male Lion & Black Rhino = $97,443.88

Not seeing a price for Elephant & Hippo but the brochure says "All animals in the big 5"
It also says that transport to and from airport and hotel are included.


Right!

Elephant may have been left of since the sport hunting was banned in 1973 in Kenya. 1976 may have seen price increases since the country wide hunting ban was effective May 1977.


Sad state of affairs in Kenya with respect to wildlife now.

 

[Shakka]

Elephant may have been left of since the sport hunting was banned in 1973 in Kenya. 1976 may have seen price increases since the country wide hunting ban was effective May 1977.


Sad state of affairs in Kenya with respect to wildlife now.

Imagine what Kenya was like in the 1940's in the golden age of Safari hunting?

 

[deewayne2003]

Those damn boomers.

Wealthiest generation in American history, 40% more wealthy than the same age demographic was in 1994; so yeah you get purchasing power.

As I’ve stated before, it will be interesting to see how the market reacts when the largest and most discretionary spending able generation leaves the market.

 

[Shakka]

Wealthiest generation in American history, 40% more wealthy than the same age demographic was in 1994; so yeah you get purchasing power.

As I’ve stated before, it will be interesting to see how the market reacts when the largest and most discretionary spending able generation leaves the market.

And the kids of today that have zero interest in hunting Africa

 

[Vintageguy]

Bargains for sure, even when you consider it in today’s money. $1000 in 1976 equals approximately $5800 today according to the all knowing AI.

 

[deewayne2003]

And yes, I wonder why leopard costs more than lion?

Maybe because they didn’t have trail cameras and it took more effort to get one?…. Or they still considered Lions a pest?

What ever the reason it caught my eye too and wish we could know.

@Wheels - Am I mistaken or doesn’t your family have connections/History in Kenya?

Can you shed a light on game densities or other details that may give context to the prices?