Is this typical of the US?

My experience is that people tend to be friendlier in parts of the map that are red. I'm actually not trying to make a political statement..... but values are different in certain regions. I have plenty of friends that vote both ways, and the majority of people on both sides are reasonable, thoughtful, kind, ethical people. I have lived in blue areas and red areas and got along fine in both. I've lived in the Northeast and in the West, in Europe for a couple years, in cities with over a million people and towns of a few hundred. I prefer old-fashioned values and small towns. Certain big cities skew toward traditional values and certain big cities are political clown-shows (San Francisco, Portland, LA, Baltimore, Chicago, St. Louis).

Most people I've encountered are good. All nations and societies have psychopaths and problem children. Good people tend to be, well, conservative. They're too busy running businesses and raising kids to attend rallies, get on TV, or run a stupid influencer blog. Outrageous activity and idiotic ideas get lots of press. Conservative values are boring and don't sell ad space. I've done 6-figure deals more than once with nothing more than a phone call and a handshake. No contract on earth is as sure as the word of an honest person.

It's no joke that people from Africa who visit the US are often apprehensive about the trip. They come expecting to see murders, overt drug use, and drive-by shootings on the regular. I suppose you can find that stuff if you go looking, but even in the worst cities it's just in certain neighborhoods.

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To the OP, I am glad you got to experience some of the "Real" America as opposed to the socialist democratic mess in most of the cities. Even so, I lived in SoCal in LA for a few years and found that most Californians were friendly and courteous but were still very liberal in the political leanings.

I hunted my last day in Limpopo with three guys from California and had a grand time with all of them. You will be just as welcome in Kentucky as in Wyoming.
 
Most Americans are very decent, affable & hospitable people.

One should never make assumptions about people or stereotype them based upon pre-conceived notions (esp. based upon what mainstream media tends to portray people as these days). I will give you all one very emotional example.

When I hunted in Tanzania in 1978 (when TAWICO reopened hunting five years after the 1973 ban), we had a South Carolina gentleman in camp by the name of Dave Bourban. He had a tattoo of the American confederate flag on each of his forearms and spoke with a strong Southern accent. He even chewed tobacco. If modern leftist tabloid journalists took just one look at the man, then they would immediately declare him to be the stereotypical racist. In reality, I found Dave to be anything but. He was a true gent in every sense of the word. Extremely friendly with me, our white hunters and even the trackers and coolies. He had brought along 2 rifles on Safari: a custom made .375 Holland & Holland Magnum built on a Remington Model 30 Express action and a Belgium made boxlock ejector double rifle in .458 Winchester Magnum (a guild gun). During one of our evening campfire chats after a long day of hunting eland, I casually mentioned to him that I had always dreamt of hunting dangerous game in Africa with a double rifle someday. Dave immediately told me “Habib, I’ll be mighty pleased if you bag your Cape buffalo with my .458 double. Don’t worry about me. I can get by with my .375 bolt gun just fine for the rest of my Safari. “ I was greatly taken aback by Dave’s kindness. I eventually did succeed in securing a huge Cape buffalo with Dave’s double rifle on that very safari, and thus my dream of being able to pursue dangerous game with a double rifle was fulfilled.

The rifle itself had faulty ejectors and was an unmarked Belgium made guild gun of no significant collector's value. But it was because of that double rifle that Dave & I would become best friends (and international hunting partners) for life (until his tragic passing in 2020 due to the Chinese Virus). Back when my daughter, Kaniz was studying at the Darla Moore School Of Business… Dave & his wife, Arlene really looked after her like their own daughter when she had nobody else there.
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I still continue to hunt with Dave’s son Lester today. He calls me “Uncle Golam”.
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Wow surprised that so much of alaska is the wrong colour.......
I may be wrong but i think most of the blue is uninhabited land in the Yukon and it’s so blue because of how the territory is marked for voting districts bethal and Fairbanks being the main towns controlling the area. (It’s not really that many people there in the scheme of things)
 
I recently spent just over a week in a small town in Wyoming. This was my first visit to the US since I was about 10.

My illusions of the US were totally shattered. The people I met were almost entirely welcoming, genuinely kind, very courteous, smartly dressed, healthy looking and very moral with a quiet, confident pride in themselves, their state and country that was in no way boastful but something I have not seen at home.

The people there reminded me a lot of Afrikaans people, particularly the strongly held values.

I expect that I was lucky in the people I met, but is this typical of the US, or even of the Western States?

I was also surprised how accepting of risk people were, either physical risk (riding unbroken horses for fun or driving at high speed on sheet ice) or taking a

Wow surprised that so much of alaska is the wrong colour.......
No, you mean Anchorage, the city closest to Alaska. Alaska is the "right color" to its bones.

Kaliforniaian's have have f@cked their state so badly, that they are escaping their "utopia" and taken their politics everywhere west.
 
No, you mean Anchorage, the city closest to Alaska. Alaska is the "right color" to its bones.

Kaliforniaian's have have f@cked their state so badly, that they are escaping their "utopia" and taken their politics everywhere west.
Don’t forget Juneau and the western half of the Fairbanks North Star Borough. To be fair though the democrats in Alaska are nowhere near as bat shat crazy as their comrades in the other states; heck a lot of them actually are surprisingly supportive of hunting and gun ownership. The politics of money is a whole other story. In 15 years of Alaskan residency, the level of self-congratulatory ignorance of the average Alaskan has never ceased to amaze me. This state has put itself in a really awkward financial position. We’ve practically given away our natural resources, and in exchange “we the people” have been so easily placated with annual dividend checks and a handful of good-paying jobs that won’t exist after those natural resources are exhausted. Don’t even get me started on the fish and game management, or shall we say mismanagement. The decline of fish and game populations statewide, along with the corresponding opportunities for harvests, has been incredible.
 
A couple of map graphics showing states’ ranking re: common indexes of welfare dependency and counties within states aligning politically red (Republican) or blue (Democrat).

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Don’t forget Juneau and the western half of the Fairbanks North Star Borough. To be fair though the democrats in Alaska are nowhere near as bat shat crazy as their comrades in the other states; heck a lot of them actually are surprisingly supportive of hunting and gun ownership. The politics of money is a whole other story. In 15 years of Alaskan residency, the level of self-congratulatory ignorance of the average Alaskan has never ceased to amaze me. This state has put itself in a really awkward financial position. We’ve practically given away our natural resources, and in exchange “we the people” have been so easily placated with annual dividend checks and a handful of good-paying jobs that won’t exist after those natural resources are exhausted. Don’t even get me started on the fish and game management, or shall we say mismanagement. The decline of fish and game populations statewide, along with the corresponding opportunities for harvests, has been incredible.
Not just dividend checks... there are entire villages devoted to getting drunk and living on the tit.
 
NATIVE Texans are renowned for hospitality--can't answer for any U-Haulers or carpetbaggers....

Maybe we put the border patrol on the wrong river?
 
Borderer, Before Trump came to government my wife and I would regularly travel to the USA for a week or two each year vacation. We always found, ran into and/or were amongst quality people as you describe. This includes our experience in Texas and the "South".

We never seemed to bump into the type of ignoramus's that are now characterized as "Magas."
Those were all good memories. Brian
Those good people you met were likely in fact MAGAs, you just didn't realize it. 71 million MAGA voters are not all off their rockers....
 
Borderer, Before Trump came to government my wife and I would regularly travel to the USA for a week or two each year vacation. We always found, ran into and/or were amongst quality people as you describe. This includes our experience in Texas and the "South".

We never seemed to bump into the type of ignoramus's that are now characterized as "Magas."
Those were all good memories. Brian
The way you seam to classify “magas” I would bet any problem is more of your expataions. I have seen the maga hats on all walks of life and all colors .
And the hell of it I am not a big Tump fan.
I just thought he was a smaller pile of sh$& than the democrats.
When you generalize a group of people as all the same for color , walks of life or politics with out knowing them.
Well simply that’s your problem.
 
I recently spent just over a week in a small town in Wyoming. This was my first visit to the US since I was about 10.

My illusions of the US were totally shattered. The people I met were almost entirely welcoming, genuinely kind, very courteous, smartly dressed, healthy looking and very moral with a quiet, confident pride in themselves, their state and country that was in no way boastful but something I have not seen at home.

The people there reminded me a lot of Afrikaans people, particularly the strongly held values.

I expect that I was lucky in the people I met, but is this typical of the US, or even of the Western States?

I was also surprised how accepting of risk people were, either physical risk (riding unbroken horses for fun or driving at high speed on sheet ice) or taking a gamble with a business.


You saw rural America. That is normal.

Go to the cities and the upper class will be arrogant, aggressive, and pompous. This isn't anything new, this is as old as America itself. Alexander Hamilton, one of our founders, believed that "city people" were essential to the nation and were better than the lowly producers. That ideology is 300 years old here and real, but only in the cities.

And yes, cowboys, ranchers, and farmers tend to be extreme risk takers with their occupational safety practices. Most of my rural friends are missing at least one digit from their hands...but it is always a great story.
 
Borderer, Before Trump came to government my wife and I would regularly travel to the USA for a week or two each year vacation. We always found, ran into and/or were amongst quality people as you describe. This includes our experience in Texas and the "South".

We never seemed to bump into the type of ignoramus's that are now characterized as "Magas."
Those were all good memories. Brian
Magas???? Love the ignorance in this thread. Go visit Iran and enjoy.
 
We refer to it simply as having "manners." I live in Eastern Tennessee, and we were taught manners from since we could walk. Manners are respect and chivalry. We show those to everyone, but specifically our elders, ladies, and our armed forces. We still open doors for strangers, and offer to carry their groceries to their cars. And as someone else mentioned, not think twice about feeding you. Most likely way too much. We keep our morals sacred, and our integrity is resolute. I've been to every corner of our country. People may speak differently, look differently, and have different customs, but you'll find manners in them all. It is really sad that you expect to see arrogant, loud, offensive, slovenly, rude people when you come here. (Polite citizens rarely make the news)We have those, yes. They are far from the backbone of the United States, however. Please come visit again. Supper is at 6:30.
 
I for one hope this thread gets deleted. Having traveled all over this country and world, learned a lot. Want me to bash WY? NY? Toronto? Saskatchewan? France? Cameron? South Africa? Ironically the only country I cannot complain about is Russia. If people trust the Media, then their problem. Manners . Hope the mods delete this ignorant thread. What do I know, ex commercial fisherman. Clearly a blue blood.
 
Whatever, We seldom met people like you bunch, but then, we tended to bring the best out in people not the worst.
 
Borderer, Before Trump came to government my wife and I would regularly travel to the USA for a week or two each year vacation. We always found, ran into and/or were amongst quality people as you describe. This includes our experience in Texas and the "South".

We never seemed to bump into the type of ignoramus's that are now characterized as "Magas."
Those were all good memories. Brian
Most of the hospitable people you bumped into in Texas and the South were those magas, you just didn't realize it.
 
Borderer, Before Trump came to government my wife and I would regularly travel to the USA for a week or two each year vacation. We always found, ran into and/or were amongst quality people as you describe. This includes our experience in Texas and the "South".

We never seemed to bump into the type of ignoramus's that are now characterized as "Magas."
Those were all good memories. Brian
It’s interesting that in a thread about Americans being friendly and welcoming, you felt the need to disparage half of the country as “MAGA ignoramuses.”

You’re certainly entitled to your political views. I was born and raised in the American South where we’re taught to respect our neighbors, welcome visitors, and value good manners.

Those values are still very much alive here… including among many people who happen to believe in making America great again….which I do.
 

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