I’m sick of un-gentlemenly acts

[farmer_john]

Sad but 100% true.

Young men today are no longer willing to help younger women because they rightfully fear a sexual harassment lawsuit. There is a reason former VP Pence would not allow another female in a room with him in unless a third person was present.

Even rendering medical aid to someone can get you slapped with a lawsuit that destroys your financial future.

Chivalry is dead because feminist women killed it.

why does everyone act like chivaary is tipping at starbucks. Just becsuse you heated some milk and hit a button doesnt mean you deserve a 25% tip for existing.
Chivalry isnt going out of your way to simp for women and thats what most men advocate for. And thats all these white knights are a simp thats virtue signaling their goodness. Men see women acting like trash friendzoning the guys they should marry and getting run through by trash. And only after they waste the best years of their life will they circle back to a good guy.
Guys just are tired of the friend zone and being used.

We also are an increasingly multicultural society with many 5th columns not compatable with western values.

Im polite to everyone i just dont go out of my way for everyone.


And if my daughters ever want to be treated like a princess ill marry them off to strenghten my alliance with poland. Because chivalry is alot more than just courtesy. Wich alot of men seem to forget.
Speaking of whos down for another crusade?

 

[SETH RINGER]

HERE IN COSTA RICA GETTING OLD IS "REWARDED'. LINES AT THE BANK, ETC. AN OLD GUY IS MOVED TO THE FRONT, MAKES IT EASY FOR ME.

 

[RLD]

Speaking of whos down for another crusade?

Not me. The last one(s) ended really badly for Christendom. The one in northern europe was successful, but most of the rest were long term losses.

On the bigger picture I have a very different view of manners.

I do all sorts of "old fashioned" courtesies around Toronto and other places I travel to and, in my six decades of life I have yet to have anyone verbally respond poorly to me opening a door, giving up my place in line, giving up my seat on the subway, or offering to help with a physical task. Most respond quite well and a few have been neutral, but never a negative response to date.

Even if there was a negative response I would not change my habits. I do those things because I believe they are right thing to do. I don't do them for accolades or appreciation or social credit or any kind of external validation, I do it because I believe it to be the right thing to do. I would never let the response of others dictate how I comport myself.

 

[coyote wacker]

I have always and it was engrained in me to open a door for a woman. I'am a old man from the 60's had mother, grandmothers and aunts that were apart of the training.
Yes I have had some of the "Modern Type" woman try to put a twist on my doing what was considered "gentleman" like behavior.

But I smile and tell them to have a good day !

 

[Flbt]

Today I went to the post office, and they had a fast closing door
And I watched a older lady standing in the cold weather trying to get in the door and many men just brushed past her and slammed the door in her face, or wouldn’t stop to open it or hold it open for her. I must be some kind of weirdo , because I jumped out of my truck and ran across the parking lot and opened the door, took her packages and carried the heavy stuff to the counter, before I returned to get my own stuff.
It was common practice for men to hold the door open for women ( especially older women) when I was younger, has something changed in society? And are we now just basically rude or to busy to be gentlemen?
I don’t mean to rant , but my wife is handicapped and it’s a pet peeve of mine

Didn’t a woman sue a guy for first aid?
Not to long ago?

 

[RLD]

Didn’t a woman sue a guy for first aid?
Not to long ago?

It is possible, but unlikely.

All 50 U.S. states (and Canadian provinces for that matter) have Good Samaritan laws that prevent bystanders who render aid in good faith from being successfully sued.

Fun fact, many of the weird or ridiculous lawsuits you hear talked about on the internet are urban myths or intentional falsehoods.

 

[Flbt]

It is possible, but unlikely.

All 50 U.S. states (and Canadian provinces for that matter) have Good Samaritan laws that prevent bystanders who render aid in good faith from being successfully sued.

Fun fact, many of the weird or ridiculous lawsuits you hear talked about on the internet are urban myths or intentional falsehoods.

Looked it up but it being on the net still don’t know if it’s true.
A man saved her from being hit by a car and she sued for sexual harassment

 

[Andrew62]

I live in a small town of 1850 people, it’s actually the county seat, people here almost always hold the door for others. Now when I go to my condo in NC, 250,000 people in that town, I don’t see near the amount of people hold the door for each other.

 

[PARA45]

Chivalry is dead because feminist women killed it.

100% this is exactly the problem. And like other have said, they wanted to be treated as equal, but when we do, they bitch! My Venezuelan born wife was raised with old fashion values, and I appreciate that. After 20 years of marriage, we still hold hands, and I open the car door for her, and I spoil her and she loves it.

 

[BJH65]

Looked it up but it being on the net still don’t know if it’s true.
A man saved her from being hit by a car and she sued for sexual harassment

Story is floating around on social media like FB. Unverifiable and fake news, I read that real footage of a man saving a woman from being struck by a vehicle was used (he wasn’t sued, I’m sure she was grateful). In addition we have fake AI generated videos to contend with. Unfortunately in this age one needs to cross check and independently fact check it.

 

[Aaron N]

This is an interesting observation. Similar can be said regarding how folks dress in public

My buddy and I had a very odd interaction with a middle aged female in Denver at the state game and fish office. We held the door open to allow this woman to enter the building first, and she promptly dressed us down and told her she didn’t appreciate the sexiest gesture. Definitely not the response I expected.

I’ll take things that didn’t happen for $500 Alex

 

[Tundra Tiger]

Them: "Have a nice day."
Me: "Don't tell me what kind of day to have!"

I remember a George Carlin comment from long ago. He said when people asked how he was doing he responded "I'm not unwell thank you" and that pissed them off, because then they had to think about it.

 

[Flipper Dude]

“Pardon me, ma’am. I didn’t open the door for you because you are a woman. I opened the door for you because I am a gentleman “.

 

[MS 9x56]

This is an interesting observation. Similar can be said regarding how folks dress in public

My buddy and I had a very odd interaction with a middle aged female in Denver at the state game and fish office. We held the door open to allow this woman to enter the building first, and she promptly dressed us down and told her she didn’t appreciate the sexiest gesture. Definitely not the response I expected.

I would have replied “Excuse me Mam for mistaking you as a lady”.

 

[MS 9x56]

Not me. The last one(s) ended really badly for Christendom. The one in northern europe was successful, but most of the rest were long term losses.

On the bigger picture I have a very different view of manners.

I do all sorts of "old fashioned" courtesies around Toronto and other places I travel to and, in my six decades of life I have yet to have anyone verbally respond poorly to me opening a door, giving up my place in line, giving up my seat on the subway, or offering to help with a physical task. Most respond quite well and a few have been neutral, but never a negative response to date.

Even if there was a negative response I would not change my habits. I do those things because I believe they are right thing to do. I don't do them for accolades or appreciation or social credit or any kind of external validation, I do it because I believe it to be the right thing to do. I would never let the response of others dictate how I comport myself.

That’s the way my daddy taught me and I taught my children.

 

[LimbNoMo]

I was walking through the Linq in Las Vegas once and made it very apparent that I was hurrying to get the door for a woman walking in front of me.

I’m there holding the door waiting for her. She looks at me and then attempts to get her own door. She couldn’t. I got the joy of her having to sheepishly walk through the door I was still holding open for her.

 

[rookhawk]

Today I went to the post office, and they had a fast closing door
And I watched a older lady standing in the cold weather trying to get in the door and many men just brushed past her and slammed the door in her face, or wouldn’t stop to open it or hold it open for her. I must be some kind of weirdo , because I jumped out of my truck and ran across the parking lot and opened the door, took her packages and carried the heavy stuff to the counter, before I returned to get my own stuff.
It was common practice for men to hold the door open for women ( especially older women) when I was younger, has something changed in society? And are we now just basically rude or to busy to be gentlemen?
I don’t mean to rant , but my wife is handicapped and it’s a pet peeve of mine

In the manosphere you may have heard of "men going their own way"? It's relevant for young people if you'd allow me to lay a foundation.

Younger women are largely fourth wave feminists, meaning they don't want absolute equality, they want the benefits of manhood (CEO jobs, Board seats, etc.) but they don't want the negatives such as draft or dating equality. The most ardent feminists these days want men to pay for dates, men to open doors, basically all of the trappings of traditional womanhood when it serves their interests, but none of the responsibilities that go along with traditionalism in turn.

I have noticed a number of men that have disregarded any form of masculine chivalry as a counter-sentiment.

Lousy women have started to also create lousy men. Both suck.

I believe the above is an explanation in part for what you witnessed. The other piece of explanation would be self-centered hedonism in our society that doesn't think about anyone but themselves. It's that half-dead zombie shuffling we see more of in big cities that are afraid to make eye contact, say hello, or speak to anyone on the streets. That infection is coming to suburbia and would be the other part.

 

[BigSteve57]

I'd help anyone struggling as per the OP especially if older or disabled.

 

[meigsbucks]

Courtesy is not totally lost on the young. A few years ago, my wife and I went to a movie theater and when we were leaving, I held the door open for my wife as usual. There was a HS aged girl sitting outside on the ground, keying on her phone. She looked up and said: “That is so sweet. I wish my boyfriend would open doors for me.”
When I go to the gym, I’ll hold the door for whoever is entering or exiting. Less than half the guys say thanks, but almost every woman does.

 

[HankBuck]

Today I went to the post office, and they had a fast closing door
And I watched a older lady standing in the cold weather trying to get in the door and many men just brushed past her and slammed the door in her face, or wouldn’t stop to open it or hold it open for her. I must be some kind of weirdo , because I jumped out of my truck and ran across the parking lot and opened the door, took her packages and carried the heavy stuff to the counter, before I returned to get my own stuff.
It was common practice for men to hold the door open for women ( especially older women) when I was younger, has something changed in society? And are we now just basically rude or to busy to be gentlemen?
I don’t mean to rant , but my wife is handicapped and it’s a pet peeve of mine

@pilar - it is STILL “common practice” and should ALWAYS be the practice of any gentleman to open a door for a Lady or the elderly. I think (hope?) what you saw was the exception.