I have that savage, great rifle they only made for a couple of years. The walnut stock is even hollowed out to save weight. Mine weighs a tad under 5.5 lbs, 20 inch barrel. With the Leupold VX3-HD 2.5-8x36 and A Browning horse hair sling it weighs 6.4lbs. Here is a pic of the Savage with my first African trophy. By the way, mine is a tack driver. 1/2 inch groups at 100. The Black Wildebeest was 303 yards.Savage lightweight walnut 308 scoped = right at 7 pounds. New favorite rifle
Savage 375 hh scoped = right at 8 pounds. I would prefer 8.5 but its nice to carry.
Wow. A 375 H&H @ 5.5 lbs must have some serious recoil and muzzle jump. Is it ported?I have that savage, great rifle they only made for a couple of years. The walnut stock is even hollowed out to save weight. Mine weighs a tad under 5.5 lbs, 20 inch barrel. With the Leupold VX3-HD 2.5-8x36 and A Browning horse hair sling it weighs 6.4lbs. Here is a pic of the Savage with my first African trophy. By the way, mine is a tack driver. 1/2 inch groups at 100. The Black Wildebeest was 303 yards.
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You Sir are a man of good taste. I have never seen so many rifles listed by one person in 404J. My Argentine 1909 M98 404J with S&B 1.25-4 weighs 10lb 6oz and my M70 375 H&H with Swaro 1.25-4 weighs 10lb 1oz. As you said balance is so much more important that pure weight. Both barrels are 23" which is just about perfect IMHO.Here is a list of rifles with and without scopes that are suitable for Africa, this is not meant to be the only rifles suited for African hunting it is just rifles either owned or available to me for weighing. Note all weights listed in pounds.
9.48lb 7.62X51 FN-FAL carried by Rhodesian soldiers during the bush war
8.23lb .308 Ruger M-77 scoped Kahles
9.64lb. .375H&H M-70 Win scoped Swarovski
11.00lb. .375H&H M-70 Win scoped Swarovski
12.50lb. .375H&H M-70 Win scoped Swarovski--Please note this is a take down rifle with a non sighted .300 win barrel, I believe it would be about 1 to 11/2lb. lighter.
9.24lb. .404J Mauser Jefferies. Non scoped
7.80lb. .404J SSB Magnum Mauser Rigby. Non scoped
9.90lb. .404J CZ Trijicon RMR
9.90lb. .404J CZ Kahles. RMR
10.60lb. .450-.400 88b Heym double rifle. Non scoped or RMR
10.50lb. .470N 89.b Heym double rifle. Non scoped or RMR
10.70lb. .416R Original SSB Mauser Magnum Rigby
I had no other rifles to weigh please add to this list.
I read different peoples opinions on weight and what constitutes to much weight and due to weight and caliber it may called a shoulder cannon. I referred first to the FN-FAL simply because it was a rifle carried daily by Rhodesian soldiers in the bush this weight is with an empty 20rd mag. I would say that they were in better shape than most of us.
I was totally surprised when I saw the weight of my favorite .375H&H/.300 WM. it really never felt that heavy to me. Of the rifles that I have listed above the one that is the most pleasant to carry is the Jefferies .404J. the balance is perfect. Almost any scoped rifle does not feel what I would called balanced, not only balanced at the shoulder, but also carrying. Most doubles in the 11lb. range seem comfortable to carry, as does my .416 Rigby, god forbid if it had a scope it would be around 13lb. no thanks.
This range of rifles cover the weights that most visiting hunters and PHs would carry. I have not specified the popular Blaser R-8 because I did not have one to weigh. I also did not have any PF rifles to weigh, FN-FAL excepted.