Greatest athlete of modern times

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Jim Thorpe

To list his accomplishments in Football, Basketball, Baseball, Track and Field, Lacrosse, Tennis, Boxing, Handball and even Ballroom Dancing would suck up much of the available bandwidth of this forum.
You beat me to it. Jim Thorpe was the best all round athlete. No doubt about it. And a nice guy by all accounts. I seem to recall he stayed competitive into his forties.

Carl Lewis is on the podium. I saw him being interviewed last week. Very articulate, pleasant, and engaging. I was surprised. Back in the day he seemed very stuck on himself. Turned me off mega.
 
Too many variables to consider as previously mentioned. My vote goes to Usain Bolt. His sprinting dominance over the course of 12 years was unmatched and he made it look easy. His 200M record will stand for a LONG time.
 
Love this - as a non USA sports watcher, some other sports contenders that I would consider...

1. Reinhold Messner - mentioned previously - first person to climb all 14 8000m and doing it without oxygen as well, first to solo climb everest - first to cross greenland and Antartica on foot.

2. Donald Bradman - Ausie cricketer - has a batting average of 99.99% - put that into perspective - it would be like a modern baseball batter, average 0,9999 - and not for a once off, he had 80 innings

3. Tiger Woods

4. Usain Bolt

5. Armand Du Plantis - has broken the pole vault world record 16 times.

6. Micheal Phelps

7. Khabib Nurgamedov - UFC fighter - no losses

8. Gary Gasparov (Magnus Carlsen may surpass him) - Chess player, most dominant for decades

9. My favourite these days - Devon Larrett - Canadian Armwrestler
@saswart - Wow now a “Chess Player” mentioned for Greatest Athelete? Maybe we can mention some of the Checker Players next, or Women's Knitting ? Tiger Woods is a JOKE - he can’t even keep his Car on the road…
 
For golf I’ll go with Nicklaus, Palmer and Norman. For generic high altitude mountain climbing- any number of Nepalese men and women, many of Sherpa clan last name- so many in fact that the last name is synonymous with the profession… incredible physical stamina. One of my older daughter’s best friends is a Sherpa. Now for pickle ball….. I’ll have to ponder that a while. :)
 
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With the 2026 World Cup now over. Talk continues that Lionel MessI may be the greatest athlete of all time.

He is very talented.

My choice for number one is Reinhold Messner

Number two Ted Williams.


What are yours.
Mine would be Bo Jackson and Deon Sanders both who played two pro sports with great success at the same time
 
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Lot of great sports athletes but to climb these mountains with no ropes or anchor points is not only mentally insane but physically incredible. That’s an athlete. Your grip fails or you get tired you die.. there is no other outcome. Y’all should look up some of the documentary’s on him
 
Also Micheal Phelps from an Olympic sport perspective shuts down any argument 28 medals in 4 Olympics . Most gold, most individual, and most all time.
 
@saswart - Wow now a “Chess Player” mentioned for Greatest Athelete? Maybe we can mention some of the Checker Players next, or Women's Knitting ? Tiger Woods is a JOKE - he can’t even keep his Car on the road…
Well chess masters probably take the trophy in mental resilience since they say some burn up to 6000 calories in a day during tournaments. The top player’s memory recall and retention is otherworldly.
 
Well chess masters probably take the trophy in mental resilience since they say some burn up to 6000 calories in a day during tournaments. The top player’s memory recall and retention is otherworldly.
@Killingtime - I have enjoyed the opinions on this thread and even the “stretch” to keep adding different categories and accomplishments normally Not associated with athletics. Is every impressive accomplishment Now considered “Athletic”? All fitness does not require athletic skill - a Bodybulider can be incredibly fit and yet not be able to play any varsity level or pro Sport and this doesn’t diminish top Bodybuilders strength & “fitness”. Chess players are impressive mentally and so are many NeuroSurgeons but if they are considered “Athletes” this thread is needs some guardrails. My opinion (meaningless) is that the Best Athletes are “gifted” and born with abilities (genetics) that can be developed into skills Others can NEVER reach regardless of practice & training…they have versatile skills, are highly coordinated, well conditioned, strong, and these skills transfer into proficiency in multiple sports. Anyone that plays professional Sports or makes it to the Olympics is Already an “exceptional” athlete and many of the names mentioned already that seem to meet this definition are Jim Thorpe, Dion Sanders, etc.. and that does Not detract from exceptional “single sport athletes” it just rewards versatility. I don’t think there is any One Clear winner of the title “Greatest” athlete - but I am Certain it is Not ME.
 
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Lot of great sports athletes but to climb these mountains with no ropes or anchor points is not only mentally insane but physically incredible. That’s an athlete. Your grip fails or you get tired you die.. there is no other outcome. Y’all should look up some of the documentary’s on him
I have an olympic winning anal clench just looking at that photo. No thanks.
 
Don't forget MJ, LeBron James or Tom Brady
LeBron is a douche.

Tom Brady, Elway, Michael Jordan, There are actually thousands of GOATS.

Larry Byrd was actually as good as anyone else alive in his prime.

Wayne Gretzky is my pick.

There are actually lots of women that are at the elite as well.

Ilohna Maher is my pick for women.

There is no metric where anyone can be measured against another one.

What about the Olympics?

Michael Phelps has 24 medals.

There are other olympians that have more than 1 medal in more than one sport.

Medals Across Summer and Winter Olympics (Different Sports)​

  • Eddie Eagan: The only Olympian to win gold at both Summer and Winter Games in different sports — gold in boxing (1920 Antwerp) and gold in bobsleigh (1932 Lake Placid).
  • Lauryn Williams: Medals in track & field (e.g., gold in 4x100m relay 2012, silver in 100m 2004) and silver in bobsleigh (2014 Sochi).
  • Eddy Alvarez: Silver in short-track speed skating (2014 Sochi, relay) and silver in baseball (2020 Tokyo).

Other Multi-Sport Medalists​

  • Several early 20th-century Americans (e.g., Leo Goodwin, Frank Kugler, and others) won medals in three different sports at the 1904 St. Louis Games (often in swimming/water polo, athletics, etc.), though some results from that era had unique circumstances.
  • Athletes like Tim Shaw (swimming and water polo) also earned medals across disciplines.
 
All around athlete: Bo Jackson is probably the number one. Deion Sanders would be second. True multi sport athletes. I am inclined to say, without a doubt, Bo Jackson. Between football, baseball, olympic level sports, hunting, etc. he's just simply the best.

Basketball: Michael Jordan, hands down. Mentioning Lebron James is laughable.

Hockey: Wayne Gretzky

Soccer: Lionel Messi

Football and baseball are all very difficult to really say because it's very position specific. For example, the greatest QB has nothing other than their drive and willpower to compare with a defensive lineman. Same with a pitcher and an outfielder.

I will say, the greatest QB of all time is Tom Brady. I couldn't stand him back in the day. However, when he left the Pats and went to the Bucs, only to win a SB his first year, after his prior track record...you can't even dispute it. It's amazing to think if not for Eli Manning and Big Blue he would have NINE rings.

The best hitter in baseball: Ted Williams
The best pitcher in baseball: Cy Young
 
Fun discussion. And another rabbit hole to go down- how about the best pound-for-pound athlete of all time? Who is the most athletic with the least frame to work with?

For context, I’d rate myself a very good American football player, a good wrestler and rugby player and paintball competitor, and experienced but not great in multiple events in track and field (my favorite part of that sport was that it was co-ed). I have family members that are world champion rodeo cowboys, so I know what that life looks like, but never really went down that road myself other than roping a few steers and getting bucked off a few bulls and horses. I’ve tried my hand at any organized sport within my reach my entire life. I swim like a boulder. I enjoy racquet and bat sports and I love to play soccer and basketball at any opportunity, but experienced players in those disciples get the edge on me. It’s probably impossible for my hours spent hunting to ever pass up my hours spent in other sports, which is something I now regret.

All this to say I’m always most impressed by all around athletes that proved themselves in multiple sports. Bo Jackson and Jim Thorpe are hard to argue with in that regard. I like the Deon Sanders idea as he was incredible in multiple positions in American football and a good baseball player. Unfortunately we are now at least one or two generations in to predominantly single sport specialization, so we will never get to know what these specialists could do in other sports.

As a fellow short guy, I’ve enjoyed watching Messi, and it’s obvious he is on another level above even the other World Cup soccer players. It’s a level of excellence above what I saw in Michael Jordan on the court when compared to other allstars of his era (although Jordan might come away with #1 competitor / gamer of all time). Wayne Gretzky might exceed his peers to a greater level than either of those two.

Allen Iverson was LISTED as 6’ but probably was actually 5’10. He was 165lbs soaking wet, but was named an 11x NBA all star, and NBA MVP. He, however, believed he was better at football, and as a Junior was named the AP High School player of the year (nationwide) in both football and basketball.

I think if you put all of the world’s greatest athletes in the Roman colosseum and had them play a game of tag, Allen Iverson or Deon Sanders might emerge as the winner. Unless it was won by a rugby winger or a shifty soccer player or any number of NFL wide receivers or a super athlete who just happened pick cricket as his favorite sport and stick to it…

I’d never want to have to tackle Bo Jackson or Jonah Lomu. And I’d never, ever ever want to fight Jon Jones. And then for pure speed in their events, Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps were just flat out dominant. But 26 year old Stetson Wright will soon become the all-time money winningest rodeo cowboy of all time, and at 5’6 and 125 lbs he is a 10-time PRCA champion. All he does is ride a bronc and a bull at the same rodeo, several times per week, most weeks per year. I don’t even want to get on one of those for one second, one time, ever again.

As an ex scrum half in rugby, I really enjoy watching Antoine DuPont. He did an event change himself. After being named the men’s 15’s player of the year in 2021 and winning the European championship, the the 2022 Six Nations, and the 2023 Rugby World Cup, he transitioned to Sevens, and promptly won an Olympic gold medal for France.

I don’t think there’s a great answer to this question, but it’s sure fun to talk about. I suspect the true answer for the best athlete of all time is some unknown West African hunter that lived in 600 B.C. and died at the ripe old age of 24. Or will it be some Viking that did nothing his entire life but row, sail, fight and pillage?

I hope the afterlife offers the chance to view highlight reels. We’ll be in for a treat.
 
With the 2026 World Cup now over. Talk continues that Lionel MessI may be the greatest athlete of all time.

He is very talented.

My choice for number one is Reinhold Messner

Number two Ted Williams.


What are yours.
Reinhold Messner would never have occurred to me. But I endorse your choice. His solo alpine-style ascent of Everest from the North stands as an unmatched feat, to me. Also, the tragic climb and descent of Nanga Parbat, up via the Rupal face, down via the Diamir face, without his brother. So he does tower above many others! There are many in the hunting world as well, though they aren't usually considered athletes. The courage and perseverance displayed by some failed hunters of the great bears, for example, make the best pro-athlete pale by comparison. We won't mention the failed elephant hunters, as they so often leave no trace of their passing...
 
Juan Manuel Fangio was a 4 time Formula 1 driving champion at an age most drivers had retired. Considered by many the GOAT of F1.
Fangio drove in the era (1950-1960) before
rollbars, seat belts, fireproof uniforms or any other modern day safety devices. Consider racing drivers athletes or not, Fangio was at the pinnacle of his sport.

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Maybe we could have a sub-category of "GREATEST ATHLETIC MOMENTS" of all time. What did they do at the top of their game?
Then I would vote for Franz Klamer of Austria in downhill skiing.
 

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