In my experience when you move into 450-400 NE and up you really need to be able to reload. Despite shortages and yes I pay a higher price than before, but I have no problem getting all reloading components bar none.
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Anyone tracking this one haha. Wow it went up fast!
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Saw that. Not surprising lol
Major Bonkers
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About a year ago, there was a Welsh lady - from memory - asking about buying a cheap big game rifle as she wanted to begin a career in that world. As I remember it, the response from most was a resounding 'Nooooo! Stay in the valleys listening to Tom Jones, reading Dylan Thomas, and cuddling sheep.' Perhaps disheartened, that seems to have been the last time that she appeared on the forum.
Anyway, with some caveats, I have found her rifle: a 7mm Remington Magnum/ .458 Winchester Magnum two-barrelled set on a double square bridge Mauser action. The photographs on the internet are not particularly detailed, but it does have a thumb cut-out on the action. The rifle was put together by C.L. Moore, who a brief search on Google tells me is an American rifle maker (unrelated to Roger) and whose rifles do not command a premium at resale. On the other hand, it looks to be competently put together rifle, clean, and - apart from a dubious 'pillow' on the right-hand of the stock (which should be easy enough to get rid off) - not unpleasant to look at.
There are some caveats. The vendor has taken off the 'scope and - cheapskate - the mounts, so whoever buys it is going to have to buy some new ones (obviously, get QD mounts). The barrels screw on and off in a rather inelegant way. As a finickety point, it has a flag safety rather than a Winchester safety. And, most seriously, the feeding of bullets from the magazine and through the action needs to be thoroughly checked.
BUT it's for sale with an estimate of £300 - 500. For someone prepared to go to the trouble of engaging a gunsmith to give it a once-over before the auction, and buying it with open eyes, there is potentially a lot of rifle there which will cover plains and bush, and everything from a warthog to an elephant.
https://www.southamsauction.co.uk/a...to=0&au=&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=1&g=1
Anyway, with some caveats, I have found her rifle: a 7mm Remington Magnum/ .458 Winchester Magnum two-barrelled set on a double square bridge Mauser action. The photographs on the internet are not particularly detailed, but it does have a thumb cut-out on the action. The rifle was put together by C.L. Moore, who a brief search on Google tells me is an American rifle maker (unrelated to Roger) and whose rifles do not command a premium at resale. On the other hand, it looks to be competently put together rifle, clean, and - apart from a dubious 'pillow' on the right-hand of the stock (which should be easy enough to get rid off) - not unpleasant to look at.
There are some caveats. The vendor has taken off the 'scope and - cheapskate - the mounts, so whoever buys it is going to have to buy some new ones (obviously, get QD mounts). The barrels screw on and off in a rather inelegant way. As a finickety point, it has a flag safety rather than a Winchester safety. And, most seriously, the feeding of bullets from the magazine and through the action needs to be thoroughly checked.
BUT it's for sale with an estimate of £300 - 500. For someone prepared to go to the trouble of engaging a gunsmith to give it a once-over before the auction, and buying it with open eyes, there is potentially a lot of rifle there which will cover plains and bush, and everything from a warthog to an elephant.
https://www.southamsauction.co.uk/a...to=0&au=&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=1&g=1
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Spartan5
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What do you think this one ends up at? What’s it worth?
Wishfulthinker580
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I might be nuts and this is just my opinion but if I were personally buying it from an individual I would probably try and get it for $4500-5000 or thereabouts. I’m pretty certain they were $3200 new when they were being made.
Of course that’s if I had a time machine in order to have AHR do one of their upgrades on it. The three upgrades were $800, $1800 and $3000 if memory serves. Someone may correct me on that.
I would think an AHR 550 (in 505 Gibbs) with a #3 upgrade would probably (reasonably) bring $8-8.5k and probably knock off $1k for every step down in upgrade. Although I could see these auctions getting crazy..
I may be being too conservative in my guesstimates as well.. I’d be surprised if it didn’t bring double that (double the new cost of $3200) in this auction. IMHO… Not many options below $10-15k for the mighty Gibbs..
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I have the .270 and .243 cal siblings to this rifle. I say that because it has the same initials on the plates. I lost track of the .338 Win Mag sibling. It sold with RIA, not too long before I acquired the .270 and .243.
Spartan5
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I am the one winning that right now. Hopefully not bidding against a fellow AH member!
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No bidding from me. Are you still wining? Good luck!
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Saw this 8x57 R stalking rifle. No bids yet but starts at $1,000.
SERIAL NUMBER 18975 BARREL 26" CALIBER 8 X 57 R MANUFACTURED PRE-WW2. Produced in Suhl by Sempert & Krieghoff with 1/2 Octagon to round tapered barrel. Single shot stalking rifle with Farquharson style under lever action with double set triggers and vividly case colored finish with the H /K with anchor monogram struck on top left corner of receiver. Rifle is mounted with and highly figured oil finished checkered pistol grip walnut stock with period Bakalite butt plate. and matching forearm attached with single wedge. Rifle has ramped front sight with 2 leaf express rear sight and is mounted with lever operated quick detachable scope mounts with a Swarovski 1.5-6 X 42mm variable scope. CONDITION, Very fine with excellent bright bore with sharp rifling. Barrel retains over 95% blue finish/ The receiver retains over 97% of the vivid lacquered case colors. The stocks are very fine with a few very minor bruises and impressions. The action and triggers operate properly and the optic are clear. C&R
SERIAL NUMBER 18975 BARREL 26" CALIBER 8 X 57 R MANUFACTURED PRE-WW2. Produced in Suhl by Sempert & Krieghoff with 1/2 Octagon to round tapered barrel. Single shot stalking rifle with Farquharson style under lever action with double set triggers and vividly case colored finish with the H /K with anchor monogram struck on top left corner of receiver. Rifle is mounted with and highly figured oil finished checkered pistol grip walnut stock with period Bakalite butt plate. and matching forearm attached with single wedge. Rifle has ramped front sight with 2 leaf express rear sight and is mounted with lever operated quick detachable scope mounts with a Swarovski 1.5-6 X 42mm variable scope. CONDITION, Very fine with excellent bright bore with sharp rifling. Barrel retains over 95% blue finish/ The receiver retains over 97% of the vivid lacquered case colors. The stocks are very fine with a few very minor bruises and impressions. The action and triggers operate properly and the optic are clear. C&R
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The .416 is a beautiful rifle, (funny cheek piece) I assume the .270 and .243 are lefties too?
WillMFerguson
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Correct. Very nicely engraved, beautiful wood, and based on Sako actions, like the .338 Win. Mag.
WillMFerguson
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https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...-1-tropical-in-416-rigby.cfm?gun_id=102312334. Not sure if anyone is looking for one, but here's a Ruger Tropic in .416 Rigby for a decent price.
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ET1775
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Always looking, seldom buying. I did just get a No 1 Boddington in 300 H&H mag and today purchased a .405 Win with a grander future.
WillMFerguson
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I absolutely love .300 H&H. Congrats!
ET1775
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Thanks!
HookMeUpII
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Great price for that rifle in a very desirable round. If only I didn't just spend a ton of money going to RSA.
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I read your thread with interest. Would you mind sending me that PDF? May I put it on my website?
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I read your thread with interest. Would you mind sending me that PDF? May I put it on my website?
Rob
