Full stock hunting rifles?

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Top is CZ 550 FS in 9.3x62. Heavier than most full stock rifles but very accurate and comes with a single set trigger. Center is my pride and joy model 1905 Mannlicher Schoenauer in 9x56 MS. It has the double set trigger. Very close to a 358 winchester. It is the best handling rifle I have ever touched. Taught me more about reloading and cartridge forming than I ever realized existed. Bottom is a Ruger 77 RSI in 250-3000 savage. It features a tang mounted safety and 18” barrel. Very handy in a tree stand and thick cover still hunting. Yeah I have a thing for full stocked rifles.
 
Matt ,
Look for a good condition Ruger No 1 International. 30/06 or .270
No way you won’t love it
Super fine rifle . I gave mine (.270 win. ) one of my sons in law. It remains in my gun room so if larceny is on my mind some day , it is gone.
It sets there for me to shoot any time.
Great looking
@Mooselodge
My mate Greg bought one of those Ruger No1 RSI full wood in 7x57.
Turned out to be the biggest pos he ever bought.
Wouldn't shoot for shit no matter what we tried. Different scope mounts,scope, loads and still wouldn't shoot
It went down the road to someone else. Greg did tell them it wouldn't shoot but they bought it. The problem ended up being the barrel was bent from the factory. Apparently Ruger warranty made good and fixed the problem.
Bob
 
My cousin Joe has a 452 CZ mannlicher stocked in 22lr. It has a metal end cap, and he coats every bullet with Alox. He showed me a 3/8" group he shot with it--at 100 yds! I have a Shilen barreled 77/22 I restocked as a mannlicher, but it is free floated--it will shoot a bughole at 50 yds with Lapua Gold 22lr.
Männlicher stocked MS in 7x57 will do 1 1/2" at 100 yds with almost anything you feed it commercially, and hit the magical Moa with handholds. It is restocked and free floated, a real rescue mission of a formerly abused MS.

I think the usual metal end cap might be an accuracy liability, but not much of one.

Why a full length stock in the first place? It is rumored the Emperor Franz Joseph used his rifle as a walking stick as he got older, and they extended the wood for both cold weather comfort and a bigger grip. Who has a better explanation?

Call me 'anal retentive', but a full length stock does not a "Mannlicher" make.

A full length carbine is properly termed a stutzen. They existed prior to Mannlicher's designs, have persisted following his death.

Ritter Ferdinand von Mannlicher was a firearms designer whose accomlishments were equal to, or better than, those of John Browning.

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Not a piece of wood.
 
View attachment 775615Top is CZ 550 FS in 9.3x62. Heavier than most full stock rifles but very accurate and comes with a single set trigger. Center is my pride and joy model 1905 Mannlicher Schoenauer in 9x56 MS. It has the double set trigger. Very close to a 358 winchester. It is the best handling rifle I have ever touched. Taught me more about reloading and cartridge forming than I ever realized existed. Bottom is a Ruger 77 RSI in 250-3000 savage. It features a tang mounted safety and 18” barrel. Very handy in a tree stand and thick cover still hunting. Yeah I have a thing for full stocked rifles.
At one point I had 6 Ruger no 1 RSIs and 4 Ruger m77 RSIs all different calibers. I have since thinned the herd down substantially but I too have an infinity for the full length stocks. I even picked up an extra M77 mannlicher stock that someone cut down for a child(pictured below), going to be perfect for my boy when he starts shooting my m77 .243.
 

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Call me 'anal retentive', but a full length stock does not a "Mannlicher" make.

A full length carbine is properly termed a stutzen. They existed prior to Mannlicher's designs, have persisted following his death.

Ritter Ferdinand von Mannlicher was a firearms designer whose accomlishments were equal to, or better than, those of John Browning.

View attachment 776224 Not a piece of wood.
I KNOW better, but I still fall prey. kind of like slang.
 
I have always liked full stocked rifles, I have a couple.....pictured below is my working rifle, nothing fancy....a Husqvarna M96 military rifle in 6.5x55 Improved shooting 129gr Hornady interlocks. I picked
up the stock at a gun fair for $80 ( I am too lazy to shorten the 21" barrel ) I fitted the scope, mounts and aftermarket safety, a barrel band and front sight, made and fitted the new bolt handle and added the recoil pad...the recoil pad is quite thick, not for the recoil but because I'm 6' 4" with Orangutan arms .
Nothing fancy but does the job and I don't have to worry about it getting scratched !!

Roger

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At one point I had 6 Ruger no 1 RSIs and 4 Ruger m77 RSIs all different calibers. I have since thinned the herd down substantially but I too have an infinity for the full length stocks. I even picked up an extra M77 mannlicher stock that someone cut down for a child(pictured below), going to be perfect for my boy when he starts shooting my m77 .243.
I had a model77 RSI in 243, that started out my affliction with Mannlicher stocks. I traded that rifle for the RSI in 250-3000 that’s in the picture.
 
I have always liked the full stocked Euro style Stuzen or Mannlicher style rifles. But, have never owned one. I know from target match shooting that more often than not a fully floated bbl is going to deliver thew best overall precision since it does not alter the harmonics of the bbl in use. Where the Stuzen design has a fixed cap near the muzzle that might impact the performance of the rifle. While hunting accuracy does not require the Nth degree of precision, I have often wondered if the full stock design harms the accuracy enough to notice or not when compared to their short stocked siblings?
 
I don't see a full stock option on the Sauer website, am I missing something?
The Sauer Stutzen is discontinued. I tried to buy one too. I love the full stock. I have several full stock rifles including this Steyr SM12, a beautiful old BRNO in 8x57 and several Ruger Number 1's. I will buy a Ruger M77 International when I see the right one. I think there is a nice looking/well priced Sako listed on this forum right now.
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@Mooselodge
My mate Greg bought one of those Ruger No1 RSI full wood in 7x57.
Turned out to be the biggest pos he ever bought.
Wouldn't shoot for shit no matter what we tried. Different scope mounts,scope, loads and still wouldn't shoot
It went down the road to someone else. Greg did tell them it wouldn't shoot but they bought it. The problem ended up being the barrel was bent from the factory. Apparently Ruger warranty made good and fixed the problem.
Bob
I have serval Ruger No.1 RSI's. Ruger is presently re-barreling the 9.3x62 under warranty. It shot great but once fired, you had to pry the casing out of the chamber.
 
I have always liked the full stocked Euro style Stuzen or Mannlicher style rifles. But, have never owned one. I know from target match shooting that more often than not a fully floated bbl is going to deliver thew best overall precision since it does not alter the harmonics of the bbl in use. Where the Stuzen design has a fixed cap near the muzzle that might impact the performance of the rifle. While hunting accuracy does not require the Nth degree of precision, I have often wondered if the full stock design harms the accuracy enough to notice or not when compared to their short stocked siblings?
I have experienced this issue with my 2 Ruger RSI rifles due to the metal nose cap contacting the barrel during firing. I removed the cap and filed a small amount off the area of contact and wallah problem solved. No such issue on my CZ550FS, it is one of the most accurate rifles I own.
 
I have always liked the full stocked Euro style Stuzen or Mannlicher style rifles. But, have never owned one. I know from target match shooting that more often than not a fully floated bbl is going to deliver thew best overall precision since it does not alter the harmonics of the bbl in use. Where the Stuzen design has a fixed cap near the muzzle that might impact the performance of the rifle. While hunting accuracy does not require the Nth degree of precision, I have often wondered if the full stock design harms the accuracy enough to notice or not when compared to their short stocked siblings?
Two of my stutzen stocks ARE free floated! The end cap is just ebony wood. I usually bed an old cleaning rod into the barrel channel, covered by epoxy so it cannot warp.
 

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