For Sale High Quality 9.3x64 Brenneke Safari Rifle

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Beautiful Rifle!! Wish factory ammo was more readily available for it. I’d be interested if it were as I don’t hand load. Only thing I could find for it was a steel case Russian produced round at 268 grains. Not a fan of steel case ammo, but at least it’s not expensive ammo.
 

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Beautiful Rifle!! Wish factory ammo was more readily available for it. I’d be interested if it were as I don’t hand load. Only thing I could find for it was a steel case Russian produced round at 268 grains. Not a fan of steel case ammo, but at least it’s not expensive ammo.

Hendershots, superior ammunition, RWS, GECO, all exist. Brown Bear is cheap plinking ammo for it because Russian special forces recently resurrected the cartridge for military use.

You can also handload with brass available in many places and excellent bullets such as A-frame, woodleigh, partition, etc.

Some of the options: https://hendershots.net/product/9-3x64mm-brenneke-extreme-custom-ammo/
 

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Very nice rifle in a great cartridge (no useless belt) but I'm saving for a Heym double.
 

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Has the barrel been reblued? The purple color on the barrel does not match the open sights, bottom metal , bases or the receiver. I don’t see the blueing turned purple on very many vintage rifles.
Here's another example of an Oberndorf Mauser further finished by J.P. Sauer with plumb finish on the barrel. This is a 100 year old rifle that functions like the day it was made in 30-06.
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Here is a brochure from Brenneke in the early 20th century. You'll note that there was a very costly option "Bohler Antonit Steel" barrels. Bohler Antonit is a high cost steel that was used on German best-guns including the modern era Beretta SO series shotguns and their double rifle counterparts. They called it "non-rusting" but it is not stainless steel to my understanding. However, its composition results in a different reaction to bluing than other steels. When I've seen it on vintage guns it seems there is a preference for a plum brown finish on Bohler Antonit barrels, probably because it matches Boss' London styling and also because it permits a barrel contrast rather than trying to get an identical match against two totally different steel alloys. (action versus barrel steel)

Keep in mind, this was a 5.15 Great Britain Pounds option in 1915 just for Bohler Antonit barrel upgrade! In today's money that's about 650 pounds or $850 dollars.

***Please keep in mind Brenneke did not make rifles, they just sold rifles for export and wholesaled to the trade. This gun is a custom rifle and has Brenneke inscribed on the barrel but it is hard to determine if it was wholesaled by Brenneke. It has many of the features of the extremely valuable ESHA model 21 and appears that it was a model 21 deluxe that had a scope installed necessitating the change of the ESHA cocking piece to a low mount and replacing the esha proprietary greener safety with a standard greener safety to get it to be compatible with the scope system. The retailer is also on the barrel and the double trigger system (a sealed unit like a timney) so this addition of a scope and replacement of the greener safety either happened before delivery or it was brought back to the original retailer for this work.

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Beautiful Rifle and very good caliber ! Many people forgot this caliber ! May be one day
 

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I noticed the BNP Burmingham proof mark on the action and barrel. Maybe made for a store somewhere in Great Britain.
 

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I noticed the BNP Burmingham proof mark on the action and barrel. Maybe made for a store somewhere in Great Britain.

no, not exactly. Made in Germany. Retailed in Prussia near a port city (clearly for African Safari ), then later in life brought to England. Then exported to America. It’s been around the world a bit over the past hundred years. Surprisingly well cared for, carried a bit judging by the exterior but the bore is exceptionally good.
 

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Here is a brochure from Brenneke in the early 20th century. You'll note that there was a very costly option "Bohler Antonit Steel" barrels. Bohler Antonit is a high cost steel that was used on German best-guns including the modern era Beretta SO series shotguns and their double rifle counterparts. They called it "non-rusting" but it is not stainless steel to my understanding. However, its composition results in a different reaction to bluing than other steels. When I've seen it on vintage guns it seems there is a preference for a plum brown finish on Bohler Antonit barrels, probably because it matches Boss' London styling and also because it permits a barrel contrast rather than trying to get an identical match against two totally different steel alloys. (action versus barrel steel)

Keep in mind, this was a 5.15 Great Britain Pounds option in 1915 just for Bohler Antonit barrel upgrade! In today's money that's about 650 pounds or $850 dollars.

***Please keep in mind Brenneke did not make rifles, they just sold rifles for export and wholesaled to the trade. This gun is a custom rifle and has Brenneke inscribed on the barrel but it is hard to determine if it was wholesaled by Brenneke. It has many of the features of the extremely valuable ESHA model 21 and appears that it was a model 21 deluxe that had a scope installed necessitating the change of the ESHA cocking piece to a low mount and replacing the esha proprietary greener safety with a standard greener safety to get it to be compatible with the scope system. The retailer is also on the barrel and the double trigger system (a sealed unit like a timney) so this addition of a scope and replacement of the greener safety either happened before delivery or it was brought back to the original retailer for this work.

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Hi Rookhawk .

I see in your post that you say that Brenneke did not make rifles , this may be have been true when your rifle was made but I do believe at some stage Brenneke did make the “Wilhelm Brenneke “ range of rifles themselves .
I made contact with Dr. Peter Mank the CEO of Brenneke to see what he could tell me about the Brenneke 9,3 x 64 that I owned and he confirmed that is was made in the Brenneke factory by their gunsmiths in 1965 . He says he remembers as a child watching the gunsmiths build the rifles by hand . If I am correct only about 7000 of these Brenneke made rifles were produced ( but this would need to be reconfirmed with Dr . Mank )
Have you contacted Brenneke directly to see what they can tell you about your beautiful rifle ? Regards , Paul .
 

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Hi Rookhawk .

I see in your post that you say that Brenneke did not make rifles , this may be have been true when your rifle was made but I do believe at some stage Brenneke did make the “Wilhelm Brenneke “ range of rifles themselves .
I made contact with Dr. Peter Mank the CEO of Brenneke to see what he could tell me about the Brenneke 9,3 x 64 that I owned and he confirmed that is was made in the Brenneke factory by their gunsmiths in 1965 . He says he remembers as a child watching the gunsmiths build the rifles by hand . If I am correct only about 7000 of these Brenneke made rifles were produced ( but this would need to be reconfirmed with Dr . Mank )
Have you contacted Brenneke directly to see what they can tell you about your beautiful rifle ? Regards , Paul .

Wilhelm Brenneke did not build rifles. He created a list of "preferred specifications" and then he had them fabricated in the trade. The swinging floorplate being one of his features he liked. Thumb cut weld-up was a popular preference of his also. Most often, ESHA, E. Schmidt & Habermann built his guns but there were several others.

The Brenneke company that trades in ammunition to this day as you pointed out did some attempts to make rifles in the mid-1960s for the German domestic market.

But when you think of 7x64 Brenneke, 8x64, and 9.3x64 Brenneke as Wilhelm Brenneke's original calibers, he did not make rifles in those calibers when they were invented in the 1920s during his lifetime, he private-labeled other firm's rifles in his calibers to his specifications.
 
 

 

 

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