Experiences with Matrix Gunsmithing

Louis Toadvine

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As many/most of you know, AHR no longer offers the upgrade packages for CZ rifles and instead recommends the services of Matrix Gunsmithing in Colorado. I have an inquiry out to Matrix about an upgrade project on my CZ 550 but wanted to source any thoughts, experiences, etc. from the AH community.

I would appreciate reading any experiences with the company, but had a few specific questions I hope someone might answer:

-Is the work comparable to what AHR provided for many years? It looks like they do essentially the same upgrades across four different packages, but I was curious if the work product and quality compares to what AHR provided. Given AHR endorses Matrix, I assume so, but I did want to crowdsource.

-Anyone have them restock a rifle? How is the craftsmanship and the quality of the wood blanks used? It looks like Matrix offers a AAA English walnut replacement as part of upgrades #3 and #4. If I go through the effort of restocking the rifle, I think I'd prefer to aim for at least a grade 5 stock with good figure and an oil finish, but am curious to see if people on here have chosen that upgrade with Matrix (pictures please if available!).

-Timing: Sounds like they have quite a backlog and are a pretty lean team. What kind of lead time did you experience? Was it shorter/longer than what was quoted?

Thanks in advance!
 

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I was put on the list for a #2 upgrade for a 458 Lott. That was in October 2021 and I’m still waiting for them to let me know I’m up and to send the rifle in to get started.
 

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I was put on the wait list to have a #2 upgrade to a CZ550 9.3x62 over a year ago. Still waiting .......
 

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I was put on the list for a #2 upgrade for a 458 Lott. That was in October 2021 and I’m still waiting for them to let me know I’m up and to send the rifle in to get started.

I was put on the wait list to have a #2 upgrade to a CZ550 9.3x62 over a year ago. Still waiting .......

Oof. That's a heck of a wait. I never had work done by AHR--was the lead time similar (year+)? I know smiths have been slammed the last few years, but that's a long time.

I'm thinking I'd be better off working with a local smith who I like a lot or selling the
CZ and buying a new rifle that doesn't need work.
 

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I have two CZ' s with AHR #2 and one Matrix #2. Really can't tell the difference. I know they are slammed with work. I have a Marlin 336 refurb in the works and a 400 Whelen in for a safety once over. Communication may take a day or two but they do respond to me. Tim is a gentleman to deal with. When I visit we BS for a long while. I feel bad knowing the work load, but he takes the time. The integral barrels look awesome, I need one, or two! John
 

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Bumping this to hopefully get some more feedback.

@Backyardsniper I'm tagging you as I found your thread about the Lott with upgrades from Matrix. Did they eventually fix the issues when you sent the rifle back?
 

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Bumping this to hopefully get some more feedback.
I will post feedback here when I get my barreled action back, job is supposed to be done at the end of this month. Having them chamber and fit a ½ octagon to ½ round integral barrel and also milling the bridges for Alaska Arms scope rings.
 

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I put my name on the list for an upgrade 2 in February 2022. I was quoted roughly August 2022 for them to request I send my rifle. I have not had a request from Matrix yet.
 

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I put my name on the list for an upgrade 2 in February 2022. I was quoted roughly August 2022 for them to request I send my rifle. I have not had a request from Matrix yet.

I heard back from Matrix last week. They had some staffing rearranged due to illness. They have been fantastically communicative this past week. My rifle is in the mail and will be delivered to them tomorrow for their Upgrade 2.
 

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Well at least some movement and communication, which is a good sign. I bought a BRNO 602 in 375 HH a couple of years ago- right at the transition from AHR to Matrix. I think, most things the average experienced gunsmith can to but the conversion from the BRNO/CZ safety to a Win 70 type safety can be a bit tricky and not for the average gunsmith. I used my local gunsmith who knows Win 70s front and back, yet he was on video calls a bunch with Wayne at AHR to get the job done. :) There are a few tricks in the conversion that many gunsmiths simply don't know, AHR and now Matrix do know. If you get your own gunsmith to do the conversion make sure they know how to do it. Many will say, "oh yah, no problem". Just make sure they know, otherwise you may end up in a gunsmith quicksand Cjerk.
 
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