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I am asking the most knowledgeable community I know in this area for some advice.
Backstory: I have a Kreighoff 500/416 NE that I used in 2018 for a buffalo, kudu and impala in Makuti, Zim. I used it even though I was not happy with the groups I was getting at the time. Used Hornady Bonded DGX and DGS for the loads, factory as I could not get any load I developed with Woodleighs to group better.
After I came back I sent the rifle to Kreighoff to be re-regulated, I had Hendershot load swift A-Frames at 2250 FPS. (Kreighoff will NOT regulate to hand loads but will accept Hendershot etc). I got the rifle back showing an 1 1/2 right left group at 50 M. Not really happy with that but lets work now.
The Hendershot Swift A-Frames were actually shooting at 2125 FPS by my chrono. I worked up my old loads of Woodleigh 410 grain softs using H1000, Swift A-Frames with IMR 4350 and H 4831, DGS with IMR 4350 and H 4831 and my old stock of northfork cup solids with H1000.
Today: Great day at the range, after working my ladder I came to four great loads that print great.
Swift A-Frames: 97 grs of H4831, R/L touching each other at 50M exactly on point of aim. avg: 2210 FPS
DGS: 95 grs of H4831 R/L 1/2 inch apart, 1/2 inch left of point of aim. Avg. 2110 FPS
Woodleigh 410 gr soft (all others 400 grain): 106 grains of H1000, R/L group 3/4 inch apart, 2 inch low and 2 inch left from point of aim. Avg. 2175 FPS
Northfork 400 gr Cup Solid: 105 grains of H1000, R/L Touching each other, 2 inch High on point of aim, Avg. 2250 FPS.
So good news is I have four very usable working loads and the re-regulation of the gun worked out great. Now I am heading to the Caprivi in Sept for Elephant, Hippo, Buffalo and plains game. Only bringing this gun and I need solids and should bring softs.
Other good news is I have a red-dot mounted on the gun, thus the point of aim can be moved.
Thus my question is should I should load up the swift a-frames (my preference for soft) and the DGS (not my preference) and be done, or should I start playing with the Northfork? If so, how would the serious reloaders go about it for the Northfolk. Will reducing the speed to 2110 bring them down, does it work that way?
Should I put the red dot 1 inch higher and texas windage it? Or just swift and DGS it? Thoughts on what you would do next? Thank you in advance for your collective knowledge and collective wise ass comments which I encourage also. Take care.
Backstory: I have a Kreighoff 500/416 NE that I used in 2018 for a buffalo, kudu and impala in Makuti, Zim. I used it even though I was not happy with the groups I was getting at the time. Used Hornady Bonded DGX and DGS for the loads, factory as I could not get any load I developed with Woodleighs to group better.
After I came back I sent the rifle to Kreighoff to be re-regulated, I had Hendershot load swift A-Frames at 2250 FPS. (Kreighoff will NOT regulate to hand loads but will accept Hendershot etc). I got the rifle back showing an 1 1/2 right left group at 50 M. Not really happy with that but lets work now.
The Hendershot Swift A-Frames were actually shooting at 2125 FPS by my chrono. I worked up my old loads of Woodleigh 410 grain softs using H1000, Swift A-Frames with IMR 4350 and H 4831, DGS with IMR 4350 and H 4831 and my old stock of northfork cup solids with H1000.
Today: Great day at the range, after working my ladder I came to four great loads that print great.
Swift A-Frames: 97 grs of H4831, R/L touching each other at 50M exactly on point of aim. avg: 2210 FPS
DGS: 95 grs of H4831 R/L 1/2 inch apart, 1/2 inch left of point of aim. Avg. 2110 FPS
Woodleigh 410 gr soft (all others 400 grain): 106 grains of H1000, R/L group 3/4 inch apart, 2 inch low and 2 inch left from point of aim. Avg. 2175 FPS
Northfork 400 gr Cup Solid: 105 grains of H1000, R/L Touching each other, 2 inch High on point of aim, Avg. 2250 FPS.
So good news is I have four very usable working loads and the re-regulation of the gun worked out great. Now I am heading to the Caprivi in Sept for Elephant, Hippo, Buffalo and plains game. Only bringing this gun and I need solids and should bring softs.
Other good news is I have a red-dot mounted on the gun, thus the point of aim can be moved.
Thus my question is should I should load up the swift a-frames (my preference for soft) and the DGS (not my preference) and be done, or should I start playing with the Northfork? If so, how would the serious reloaders go about it for the Northfolk. Will reducing the speed to 2110 bring them down, does it work that way?
Should I put the red dot 1 inch higher and texas windage it? Or just swift and DGS it? Thoughts on what you would do next? Thank you in advance for your collective knowledge and collective wise ass comments which I encourage also. Take care.
