Creating a 9.3x62 do it all

Discussion in 'Hunting Equipment, Gear & Optics' started by Scrumbag, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. Scrumbag

    Scrumbag AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2016
    Messages:
    326
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    137
    Member of:
    BASC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Europe
    Hi folks,

    With the latest visit to the opticians I have finally accepted that my astigmatism is not getting any better so I will have to submit to putting glass on my 9.3x62.

    So, I have a few questions.

    Bases: Do I do for -

    Talley (Not always a fan of how Talley rings seem to go together but I could be convinced otherwise)
    Leupold -Looks quite elegant but you are tied into Leupold
    Weaver / Picatinny bases - Quite flexible but perhaps a bit high to look over for irons
    Picatinny Rail - Not elegant and as the rifle will be used for driven boar I'd rather have the action a bit more "open"

    Optics - Got 3 optics in mind

    3-9x36 Swarovski L - Good for walking around woods or stalking plains game
    8x56 Swarovski Illuminated - Will be used for pigs / sitting up for deer at night / dusk
    Aimpoint 9000L - works with conventional mounts and great for driven boar (Though could get the H30L if thought to be much better) or do I go for a single point mount and an H1 micro o the front brigde?

    So folks, give me the benefit of your wisdom on mounts and changes in optics.

    Scrummy
     

  2. Dirtdart

    Dirtdart SILVER SUPPORTER AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    Messages:
    170
    Video/Photo:
    58
    Likes Received:
    71
    Member of:
    Life Member SCI, Benefactor NRA, NMLRA.
    Hunted:
    RSA, Namibia
    What is the make/model of your 9.3x62 ?
     

  3. Scrumbag

    Scrumbag AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2016
    Messages:
    326
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    137
    Member of:
    BASC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Europe
    It's an FN Commercial round bridge...
     

  4. Dewald

    Dewald AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2012
    Messages:
    179
    Video/Photo:
    37
    Likes Received:
    212
    Location:
    Empangeni, Zululand
    Member of:
    KZN Hunters/ SAHGCA/
    Hunted:
    South Africa, Namibia
    For what it’s worth, both my FNs carry 3-9x40 Zeiss scopes on Leupold rings and basis. They are not unsightly, reliable, and you can put rings high enough on so that you do not need to drift out your rear sight to fit the scope. That will have to happen with the x56 Swarovski though.
    This should give an idea.
    IMG_5575.JPG
     

  5. cmk

    cmk AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2018
    Messages:
    128
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    78
    Location:
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Hunted:
    Sweden, Mauritius
    I agree that a picatinny rail may not be the most elegant solution, so separate bases is what I would choose. Don't have any Mausers, so I can't give any recommendation though...

    As for the 9000L - if you already have it, or if cheaper than the H30 - stick with it. An Aimpoint rep told me the same a few years back. The difference is not that big. Can't compare it to the Micro though, as I have no experience with it.

    However, I sometime later got rid of my 9000L for the very reason of astigmatism, slight near-sightedness (myopia) and age, since the 'dot' seemed more of a 'cloud' to my eyes. Be sure to try before you buy.

    /cmk
     

  6. Hogpatrol

    Hogpatrol AH ENABLER SILVER SUPPORTER AH Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Messages:
    3,339
    Video/Photo:
    42
    Likes Received:
    6,136
    Location:
    Delaware, USA
    Member of:
    Atglen Sportsmen's Club, NRA ,SCCFSA
    Hunted:
    RSA, DE, NJ, PA, KS, TX
    Picatinny rail if the scope you choose needs a lot of fore aft movement, Burris rings with the inserts. I do not like Talley or Warne rings or any other brand that splits in the middle vertically. Have seen too many of them crush scope tubes and cause problems with making adjustments.
    I was at the range a couple days ago fighting a nice Vortex scope with Warne rings. Spinning the turrets cause no movement in elevation or windage until the rings were loosened to the point of not holding the scope securely. Had the same trouble with Talleys on a CZ.

    Scope choices? Chevys, Fords, Toyotas, Mercedes, Lexus. Money buys you low light. Spend as much as you can. I shoot long range and know a lot of others that do the same. I've shot through them and don't believe their worth the premium and you won't see a Swarovski on any of those rifles. Flame suit donned. :whistle:
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2019

  7. Scrumbag

    Scrumbag AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2016
    Messages:
    326
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    137
    Member of:
    BASC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Europe
    Hogpatrol, rail in some ways make sense but I'd rather keep action open. (I had a bad experience with a mauser 98 ejecting and flicking the spent case back into the action). Hence current preference for weaver / pic bases on top of each base
     

  8. Scrumbag

    Scrumbag AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2016
    Messages:
    326
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    137
    Member of:
    BASC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Europe
    Hi cmk, I think you see my issue. I also like the idea of keeping the action a bit more open. I tend to shoot with glasses on and a buddy has a 9000L on his 375H&H so not too bad for blurring
     

  9. Hogpatrol

    Hogpatrol AH ENABLER SILVER SUPPORTER AH Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Messages:
    3,339
    Video/Photo:
    42
    Likes Received:
    6,136
    Location:
    Delaware, USA
    Member of:
    Atglen Sportsmen's Club, NRA ,SCCFSA
    Hunted:
    RSA, DE, NJ, PA, KS, TX
    Gotcha. Wasn't aware of that issue. Single bases would work, just have to make sure you can get your eye relief set properly. Some of these new scopes have very little tube exposed so moving them back could be problematic. I have a few rifles set up like Dewalds only with Burris Signature rings with inserts. That way I can move the rear base screw for windage adjustments without bending the scope tube. The inserts act like a pillow block bearing. Another advantage of the Burris rings are the inserts come in different thicknesses so the scope can be kept as close to mechanical center as possible or if there is a need for long range, can allow the turrets to give more travel.
     

  10. Hogpatrol

    Hogpatrol AH ENABLER SILVER SUPPORTER AH Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Messages:
    3,339
    Video/Photo:
    42
    Likes Received:
    6,136
    Location:
    Delaware, USA
    Member of:
    Atglen Sportsmen's Club, NRA ,SCCFSA
    Hunted:
    RSA, DE, NJ, PA, KS, TX
    Have you been checked for cataracts? I had them and when I looked at the red dot , it was blurry, like a star. Cataracts removed and it returned to be a dot.
     

  11. Scrumbag

    Scrumbag AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2016
    Messages:
    326
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    137
    Member of:
    BASC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Europe
    Have an eye check pretty much every 12 to 18 months as a strong paternal history of glaucoma... and I'm in my mid-30s so I damn well hope not!
     
    Ridgewalker likes this.

  12. Hogpatrol

    Hogpatrol AH ENABLER SILVER SUPPORTER AH Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Messages:
    3,339
    Video/Photo:
    42
    Likes Received:
    6,136
    Location:
    Delaware, USA
    Member of:
    Atglen Sportsmen's Club, NRA ,SCCFSA
    Hunted:
    RSA, DE, NJ, PA, KS, TX
    I had narrow angle and had both eyes blasted for pressure relief valves. Good to go now. At least that's what they tell me. :unsure:
     

  13. Scrumbag

    Scrumbag AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2016
    Messages:
    326
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    137
    Member of:
    BASC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Europe
    Dewald, that's good to see.

    Must admit I have a folding "Express V" for the barrel and have a replacement Dumoulin 3-position horizontal safety to swap out for the current flag safety. How do you find 250 Savage? (I have an FN Commercial action with a 257 Roberts Lothar Walther Barrel...)
     

  14. mark-hunter

    mark-hunter AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2016
    Messages:
    453
    Video/Photo:
    10
    Likes Received:
    316
    Hunted:
    Namibia - Kalahari, Namibia - Khomas highland
    Hi Scrummy,

    Just few question to get idea:
    1. How did you get the suggested list of optics? (already available, or planning to purchase)
    2. Which rifle do you have in mind?
     

  15. Scrumbag

    Scrumbag AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2016
    Messages:
    326
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    137
    Member of:
    BASC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Europe
    1. How did you get the suggested list of optics? (already available, or planning to purchase)
    - The 2 scopes I have, the aimpoint was planning to purchase. Anything you'd recommend changing?
    2. Which rifle do you have in mind?
    - Rifle is a round bridge FN Commercial in 9.3x62
     

  16. cmk

    cmk AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2018
    Messages:
    128
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    78
    Location:
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Hunted:
    Sweden, Mauritius
    I have not done any checks. The astigmatism has been there for as long as I can remember, and it is not something that is bothering me at all in daily life. My near-sightedness is not a great problem either. Actually, I'm now in my mid-40's and I've stopped using glasses since a few years. I guess age is balancing it out. In a few years I will be needing reading glasses however, as it is getting harder to focus on really close objects.

    I believe I would be able to use a red dot sight if/when I get glasses again.
     
    Hogpatrol likes this.

  17. mark-hunter

    mark-hunter AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2016
    Messages:
    453
    Video/Photo:
    10
    Likes Received:
    316
    Hunted:
    Namibia - Kalahari, Namibia - Khomas highland
    Ok. Got the idea! 8x56 for twilight, and 3-9 for general daily use! Wise choice!
    Piccatiny rails or weaver I would not put, for classic type rifle like yours. Doesnt look good.
    So, some other more classic solution remains. With talley and Leupold I have no experience, so can not comment on them.

    To keep the look and quality, my choice would be German claw mounts of reputable maker.
     

  18. cmk

    cmk AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2018
    Messages:
    128
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    78
    Location:
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Hunted:
    Sweden, Mauritius
    Another option could be to have a lower powered scope for general hunting, e.g. a 1 or 1.5 - 6 x, instead of the 3-9 and the red dot.
     

  19. Scrumbag

    Scrumbag AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2016
    Messages:
    326
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    137
    Member of:
    BASC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Europe
    You might have a point. I shall see what the smith recommends. I have found a 'smith that did similar work recently
     
    DuncanF likes this.

  20. Scrumbag

    Scrumbag AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2016
    Messages:
    326
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    137
    Member of:
    BASC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Europe
    That might be an option, something like a 1.5-6x42 or Kahles make (made?) a 1.6-8x42 which strikes me as a very flexible scope...
     

Share This Page

 
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice