Crazy Bullet Design Idea

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  1. Dr Ray

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    Okay so I think about these things at all sorts of strange times.

    I ran this by Geoff McDonald from Woodleigh bullet manufacturer too but he said (understandably) that they are too busy to develop new products at the moment. Geoff said the idea would probably work.

    My crazy idea is to design a bullet that has 2 sections. The first section hits the target and drives a boat tail base into the second stage that opens up copper petals. These petals are significantly greater is diameter than the bullet diameter and would cause massive wound channels and to decelerate the bullet to release its energy. At the same time, the bullet,then is less likely to exit because it is "captured" by the skin because of the copper petals.
    What are your thoughts?
    Bear in mind that technology must keep advancing and what we thought of as great in years gone by, may not be so great now. I look forward to your comments.
     
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    Sounds like the TSX/TTSX.
     
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    So, idea is that the expanding part is after the ogive, but the nose does not upset?
     

  4. Dr Ray

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    The front section should keep going straight as long as petals flare equally (I hope).
    Do to answer you
    Yes
     

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    I think expansion would be less. The ogive peels back which is a lot of material, I believe.
     

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    The petals would be way back near the base so the front section expands as per normal
     

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    I don't really get what you are trying to say here but I think your idea is like the military duplex round from the 80s that never left the prototype stage do to bad accuracy.[​IMG]
     

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    Holy crap that's scary.
     

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    Is sounds like the bullet equivalent to a mechanical broadhead. I like fixed broadheads.
     

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    Creating a revolutionary small arms round is very hard to do but African cartridges actually could be a great platform as they are larger so you can put more stuff into it. Biggest problem is you probably can't use explosive rounds for hunting like the raufoss round, mini heat round, or some sort of explosive that blows out the back end of a round creating a backwards parachute. All other interesting rounds the military has wouldn't work for hunting as ap is the biggest thing they need not crushing damage.
     

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    Also these extreme expanding rounds have trouble going though clothes and certainly would work against bone. Copper petals also have the tendency to break off when shot.
     
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    The idea of the petals - near the base to open up like a parachute.
     

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    This sounds similar to a peregrine bullet.
     

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