Crash Position

tarbe

AH legend
Joined
Jan 26, 2014
Messages
4,735
Reaction score
8,938
Location
Romance, MO
Media
121
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
1
Member of
NRA Life, Handloaders Anonymous
Hunted
USA, South Africa, Zimbabwe
Got this in an email today and had to share.



Crash Position

The pilot was locked out of the cockpit.

That phrase finally revealed the full horror of the crash of Germanwings flight 9525. Co-pilot Andreas Lubitz waited for the pilot to leave the cockpit, then locked the door to prevent his re-entry. After which Lubitz, for reasons unknown and perhaps unknowable, deliberately steered the jet into a harrowing 8 minute plunge ending in an explosive 434 mph impact with a rocky mountainside. 150 men, women and children met an immediate, unthinkably violent death.

Lubitz, in his single-minded madness, couldn't be stopped because anyone who could change the jet's disastrous course was locked out.

It's hard to imagine the growing feelings of fear and helplessness that the passengers felt as the unforgiving landscape rushed up to meet them. Hard - but not impossible.

Because America is in trouble. We feel the descent in the pits of our stomachs. We hear the shake and rattle of structures stressed beyond their limits. We don't know where we're going anymore, but do know it isn't good. And above all, we feel helpless because Barack Obama has locked us out.

He locked the American people out of his decision to seize the national healthcare system. Locked us out when we wanted to know why the IRS was attacking conservatives. He locked us out of having a say in his decision to tear up our immigration laws, and to give over a trillion dollars in benefits to those who broke those laws.

Obama locked out those who advised against premature troop withdrawals. Locked out the intelligence agencies who issued warnings about the growing threat of ISISÂ He locked out anyone who could have interfered with his release of five Taliban terror chiefs in return for one U.S. military deserter.

And of course, Barack Obama has now locked out Congress, the American people, and our allies as he strikes a secret deal with Iran to determine the timeline (not prevention) of their acquisition of nuclear weapons.

Was Andreas Lubitz depressed, insane, or abysmally evil when he decided to lock that cockpit door and listen to no voices other than those in his head? Did he somehow believe himself to be doing the right thing?

The voice recordings from the doomed aircraft reveal that as the jet began its rapid descent, the passengers were quiet. There was probably some nervous laughter, confusion, a bit of comforting chatter with seatmates, followed by a brief period in which anxiety had not yet metastasized into terror.

It was only near the end of the 8 minute plunge that everyone finally understood what was really happening. Only near the end when they began to scream.

Like those passengers, a growing number of Americans feel a helpless dread as they come to the inescapable conclusion that our nation's decline is an act of choice rather than of chance. The choice of one man who is in full control of our 8 year plunge.

A man who has locked everyone out.


- Author unknown
 
Well sir there is a bright side. More and more people are starting to see the folly of the Dem party and it's supreme leader. We still have the right to vote and must exercise that franchise in November of 2016. Look how mad the hunters are getting with this stupid export crap......there will be few of us to vote the liberal ticket.
 
Interesting...my 22 year old read it and was disgusted by the author connecting the two events.

I tried to tell him it was an analogy...not a direct comparison.

I wonder if any here feel the way my son does?

I certainly do not mean to offend anyone's sensibilities...but the analogy was a good one, I thought?
 
the comparison is as clear as a sunny day , tarbe, didn't affend me
 
Interesting...my 22 year old read it and was disgusted by the author connecting the two events.

I tried to tell him it was an analogy...not a direct comparison.

I wonder if any here feel the way my son does?

I certainly do not mean to offend anyone's sensibilities...but the analogy was a good one, I thought?
I would not use the word disgusted (it sure takes a lot to disgust me) but I do see how it can be seen as in poor taste. It is clearly an attempt to connect something shocking that no one cacn defend to a personal viewpoint. That does not mean that it is not effective. I liken it to anti-hunters saying that the Holocaust is analogous to hunting. Just my opinion here, but I do think that it accomplishes it attempt to clearly convey the writer's point of view. Could it have been said in a less incendiary way? Certainly.
 
Very accurate analogy. There was an evil sickness within that co-pilot, just as there is in the Whitehouse. The door of that plane should have been kicked open, just as the door of the Whitehouse needs to be kicked open, and the evil removed.
 
I'm with ya Tarbe, I would go as far as to say it actually is a good comparative essay. I for one grabbed the oh shit handle and started screaming the day he took office.
I had to correct a vendor the other day when he claimed that Obama was successful on unemployment in this country, he was under the impression that the regime was the reason for the oil production achieving its current level. I explained that the only reason that we are producing the amount of oil domestically that we are is due to private land owners and production companies. This was a man that is in the oil and gas industry and has drank the koolaid. I believe that an IQ test should be administered prior to voting or at least make them do that put the square in the square hole, triangle in the triangle hole toy that children play with. Most of these people can't count their balls and get the same number twice.
Hopefully there are more wolves than sheep at the polls in '16.
 
Oil production? Lay offs have started in the Gulf Coast again. Production is slowing not profitable to pump oil at current prices. Roller coaster of the gulf coast have a job in the oil field.
 
Scott,
Ro
Oil production? Lay offs have started in the Gulf Coast again. Production is slowing not profitable to pump oil at current prices. Roller coaster of the gulf coast have a job in the oil field.
Scott,
Roller Coaster is a good description of what is happening, I also am in the industry. I got as nervous at the first, there have been lay offs in my company also. With several large scale projects on back log we started feeling our customers out as to weather they were going to scale back or cancel any of this work, all projects are full speed ahead, this is Eagle Ford and the Bakken Patch.
I tend to put a lot of weight in the way the major players spend their money on capital projects during a down turn in oil prices. Hang in there we will be heading back up the track shortly I'm sure.
Cody
 
Let's hope so, it is a source of income for a lot of people in this area. Good luck to you.
 
agree with saul about it being in poor taste.........can see what the author was trying to say, but dont think the parents of those school kids,........... or the other relatives would agree.............................

"Disaster: A rescue helicopter flies over wreckage of a Germanwings Airbus A320 plane that crashed between the towns of Barcelonnette and Digne in the French Alps. All 150 people on board - including two babies and 16 children from the same German school - died in the crash"
26F3FA2A00000578-3009151-image-a-30_1427211045432.jpg


26F5111000000578-3009151-image-a-32_1427224634557.jpg
 

Attachments

  • 26F5111000000578-3009151-image-a-32_1427224634557.jpg
    26F5111000000578-3009151-image-a-32_1427224634557.jpg
    180.7 KB · Views: 107
  • 26F3FA2A00000578-3009151-image-a-30_1427211045432.jpg
    26F3FA2A00000578-3009151-image-a-30_1427211045432.jpg
    213.1 KB · Views: 96
I tend to put a lot of weight in the way the major players spend their money on capital projects during a down turn in oil prices. Hang in there we will be heading back up the track shortly I'm sure.
Cody

I am also in the project side of oil and gas in Alberta, working for and around the 'major players', and I can tell you first hand, the cuts here have been huge and swift. 1000s out of work on cancelled or postponed projects, many stopped in the middle of construction. I personally went from having several years worth of work ahead of me to being complete by May (I have since picked up enough to get through the summer and maybe the year, I am lucky my skill set is diverse). Many other projects are steaming ahead but once they are complete there are few plans to begin new large scale projects. 'Gold plating' has been removed from these projects and a bare bones philosophy embraced.

The price of both Oil and Gas both being in the crapper has left the industry as a whole with no crutch to lean on, neither leg can shift weight to the other for support. I find myself fighting for every penny I receive and the decision to spend even a moderate sum is coming from quite high up, much higher than I can ever remember. Both capital and operating expenditures are on about the same trajectory as the unfortunate flight mentioned above, I fear for the industry over the next few years.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the post.
 
Interesting...my 22 year old read it and was disgusted by the author connecting the two events.

I tried to tell him it was an analogy...not a direct comparison.

I wonder if any here feel the way my son does?

I certainly do not mean to offend anyone's sensibilities...but the analogy was a good one, I thought?

I won't go as far as to say that I was offended, but I do think the analogy goes too far.

The analogy is extreme, IMO. I love analogies, but this one is purely designed (again in my opinion) to make us emotional by comparing our leadership and country to a horrific event. Isn't this the same thing we accuse the antis of doing on a regular basis, all while saying they should stick to the facts and not emotion?

My question is this. Does anyone really believe that Obama has made decisions that have put this country on a irreversible course to death, destruction, and complete annihilation? If so, then this analogy should not be offensive (and you should also leave the U.S. before she is destroyed from within!). If not, and you still think there is hope for this country despite current leadership (and by current leadership I don't just mean Obama!!!), then this analogy goes too far.
 
Last edited:
I won't go as far as to say that I was offended, but I do think the analogy goes too far.

The analogy is extreme, IMO. I love analogies, but this one is purely designed (again in my opinion) to make us emotional by comparing our leadership and country to a horrific event. Isn't this the same thing we accuse the antis of doing on a regular basis, all while saying they should stick to the facts and not emotion?

My question is this. Do anyone really believe that Obama has made decisions that have put this country on a irreversible course to death, destruction, and complete annihilation? If so, then this analogy should not be offensive (and you should also leave the U.S. before she is destroyed from within!). If not, and you still think there is hope for this country despite current leadership (and by current leadership I don't just mean Obama!!!), then this analogy goes too far.

Much as I don't care for Obama, I'm about as disgusted with politics in the USA in general. Politicizing a horrific event as this comes across as disrespectful to the people that lost their lives on that airplane. Just as it's disrespectful to the Jews and others who died in the camps when someone compares another person or group of people to the Nazis and/or Hitler.

And yes I agree Royal, it's inflaming people's emotions rather than looking at the facts.
 
I won't go as far as to say that I was offended, but I do think the analogy goes too far.

The analogy is extreme, IMO. I love analogies, but this one is purely designed (again in my opinion) to make us emotional by comparing our leadership and country to a horrific event. Isn't this the same thing we accuse the antis of doing on a regular basis, all while saying they should stick to the facts and not emotion?

My question is this. Does anyone really believe that Obama has made decisions that have put this country on a irreversible course to death, destruction, and complete annihilation? If so, then this analogy should not be offensive (and you should also leave the U.S. before she is destroyed from within!). If not, and you still think there is hope for this country despite current leadership (and by current leadership I don't just mean Obama!!!), then this analogy goes too far.

I think the analogy is less literal than that. The similarity is that he has blocked others out and made choices on his own that impact everyone adversely despite their opinions. (no puns intended with that statement whatsoever). I doubt anyone thinks those actions will result in death or annihilation.
 
Just as it's disrespectful to the Jews and others who died in the camps when someone compares another person or group of people to the Nazis and/or Hitler.

Again, too literal of a take IMO. Why not compare others of like mind to Hitler, Internment and holocaust is only one of many actions he undertook. It is important to use these analogies so we do not forget and allow another to walk that same path, I feel it encourages vigilance and honors those lost in such events by helping prevent recurrence which would be a far worse tragedy.
 
Again, too literal of a take IMO. Why not compare others of like mind to Hitler, Internment and holocaust is only one of many actions he undertook. It is important to use these analogies so we do not forget and allow another to walk that same path, I feel it encourages vigilance and honors those lost in such events by helping prevent recurrence which would be a far worse tragedy.

Well if you want to compare what happened say in Rwanda, Uganda under Idi Amin, Cambodia under Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge to Nazi Germany, or to the clown in North Korea, I think that's fair and appropriate.

Whatever the case, the original post was about comparing a plane crash that was caused by someone who obviously was suffering from mental illness. Comparing that to the sad leadership the USA has endured under Obama really doesn't make sense to me. And with burial services likely still not completed, it strikes me as disrespectful to the victims and their families.
 
the more i read the original post and the more i look at the photos the more i think its out of order in a big way.

I doubt anyone thinks those actions will result in death or annihilation.

that was the result for the people on the flight

It's hard to imagine the growing feelings of fear and helplessness that the passengers felt as the unforgiving landscape rushed up to meet them. Hard - but not impossible.

i think it impossible to say you can imagine what those people came even close to feeling...........

Why not compare others of like mind to Hitler, Internment and holocaust is only one of many actions he undertook. It is important to use these analogies so we do not forget and allow another to walk that same path, I feel it encourages vigilance and honors those lost in such events by helping prevent recurrence which would be a far worse tragedy.

i agree analogies need to be used in the circumstances you mention to remind people now and in the future about certain happenings/people etc, but only if used in the correct context, but i dont see how using this crash and the deaths of these people in an analogy about how this author sees what obama has done in his mind to the usa is in anyway correct...............
 
Wow I'm all 8ver the place on this one. To the point I 2as going to not reply, but hours to burn in the airport so....

At first blush tbe analogy goes way to far... is Obama just completly out of touch with reality, lying to himself as much as he has to the country, a single minded fanatical liberal socialist who sees the end justifying any means? Or is he the antichrist himsrlf setting the World on an irreversable path of destruction at tje hands of fanatics with nuclear weapons?

Damned if I know? But the worste possible outcome could make anything the World has seen so far paleIin comparison.

But I try to live in a World of mostly optimism and hope for the future and one where rational rules the day, eventually. At least I try to, do get my bad days though where the pessimism seeps in. We in the USA do still live in the best country on Earth so I'm not ready to give it to the idiots.
 
Regardless of any political incorrectness, if I saw the Captain of the airplane beating on the cockpit door, while the plane was plummeting towards the ground, I would be kicking that door open. Or at least try. This world is crashing and burning around us, and very few are doing anything about it. That is what the original post was trying to say, even if it hits a nerve with some.

We currently have a version of Mugabe, in the Whitehouse. Just wait until Hillary is elected. It will be the continuation of our current nightmare. Obama 2.0
 

Forum statistics

Threads
53,975
Messages
1,141,919
Members
93,312
Latest member
SibylLasse
 

 

 

Latest posts

Latest profile posts

check out our Buff hunt deal!
Because of some clients having to move their dates I have 2 prime time slots open if anyone is interested to do a hunt
5-15 May
or 5-15 June is open!
shoot me a message for a good deal!
dogcat1 wrote on skydiver386's profile.
I would be interested in it if you pass. Please send me the info on the gun shop if you do not buy it. I have the needed ammo and brass.
Thanks,
Ross
Jackal hunt on triggercam,

Jackal hunt on triggercam,

 
Top