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Doesn't seem like a whole lot of incentive to get a vaccine if I still have to be tested to get back in the USA and wear a damn rag over my face for a 16 hour flight. I'm heading to the dark continent next July and unless shit changes I'm not getting vaccinated. Don't see the point
 

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I know two people with blood clots right now from the vaccine. They are both In The hospital as we speak.
Same here R.M.C. No vaccine for me regardless. Might slip an ole nurse I know some cash and say I got the shot of it comes down to it. Lol.
 

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Doesn't seem like a whole lot of incentive to get a vaccine if I still have to be tested to get back in the USA and wear a damn rag over my face for a 16 hour flight. I'm heading to the dark continent next July and unless shit changes I'm not getting vaccinated. Don't see the point
I hope nothing changes as far as mandatory vaccines by then, but I am going this year because I fear they will require it by next hunting season, and I refuse.
 

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So if you have had COVID why get vaccinated. If you have not make the choice. Let’s get back to hunting. Can’t get COVID from a Kudu!!

Give Faucj a chance, I’m sure he’ll come up with something!
 

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Gina,
Very well stated. Can you give us some firsthand truthful information about this fiasco and it's treatment? I am sure it would be greatly appreciated if you could cut through the rubbish and tell it straight.
Sure.

There is a long and short version of sorts, so bear with me please. The simple answer to your question is: Yes, there IS treatment for covid and TOO many people died and are continuing to die when they should NOT. Now, I said treatment, not cure. So, to qualify that statement, what I know firsthand is when COVID-19 first blew up, there were facilities that were administering Pulmicort nebulized breathing treatments, Zinc, Vitamins C, D, E, Mucinex, as well as antibiotics such as Doxy, and Zpacks. Also, Hydroxychloroquine. First Hydroxy was stopped, then antibiotics, then nebulized breathing treatments were stopped, then anything else that would help the cause. Drs and Nurses were being threatened with losing their license or were being fired if they administered certain drugs. If @ActionBob feels like sharing his experience, comparing the two is quite telling.

At the time I worked in Nebraska and that is where ALL the COVID positive people in the US were being sent. COVID positive was supposed to be housed in a negative pressure room. There were facilities that did not want covid patients AT ALL. After a while, other hospitals that had those rooms could take their allotment, which was only a few per facility, but then money started being thrown at facilities for having covid patients. They stopped putting them in negative pressure rooms and would make covid wards or close off a wing and put covid positive there. Some facilities (not all) were frantically trying to make room to take as many covid positives as possible. ($$$$)

The public began to be instructed very early on to stay at home unless you are having trouble breathing. So if you had covid, or thought you had covid, they wanted you to stay at home and self-isolate. They did not want to treat anyone at early onset. Everything was being done backwards. At early onset, they could have instructed people about plenty of things. All the nurses I knew, myself included, were taking all of the above-mentioned drugs/vitamins that did not require a prescription. We referred to it as a “covid cocktail”. We would tell friends and family to take same things and spread the word. Television and every news channel or media outlet were telling people not to take this or that and something as simple as ibuprofen. We were taking both aspirin and ibuprofen to keep our blood thin. The general public, if you had covid, you self-isolate, then, depending on how your body responds, you sit around and wait until you cannot breathe. Then you get to go to the hospital and then within days you get put on a vent and die. Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. Go directly to the vent and die. There was a patient that was in a car accident. Because of this person’s injuries, they were on a vent. They were on my floor, neuro/trauma critical ICU. They happened to be covid positive but were not sick from covid, and according to family, no one had symptoms of covid. The injuries from the wreck were the cause of death. But since they had covid, it was put “covid death”. The hospital gets more money.

I was exposed to covid all the time. I JUST tested positive in March of this year. We were given ONE paper surgical mask PER WEEK at work. Talk about disgusting!! I and others were always getting scolded for taking our mask off at work and I told them that mask was going to make me sick long before covid and they can fire me if they wanted to but I was not wearing it the whole time I was at work. Meanwhile, hospital administrators were in their office nowhere near patients, and they were wearing their N95 masks. Covid particles are not stopped by a surgical mask. A brilliant Dr said wearing a mask was like throwing sand at a chain-link fence and expecting the fence to stop it. And you need at least a N100 to do any good.

When I tested positive for COVID I had only symptoms of a cold at first. I only got tested to prove to a few people that I did not have covid. One morning I woke up and went to make my coffee and had absolutely no taste. Then, realized I could not smell anything either. I got a notification that my covid results were in and there glaring at me was my shiny new positive covid test result. I started taking Doxy as a prophylactic for pneumonia because I have had pneumonia a few times in my life. I always took my covid cocktail every day but what I did after my positive test result was deep breathing, increase the amount of aspirin and ibuprofen as well as zinc and vitamin C and LOTS of fluids, mainly water. Covid clots your blood at the capillary level. Once those clots reach the lungs, gas exchange cannot happen as it needs to and then, you cannot breathe. I also never sat still. I stayed up and moving ALL the time. I had been moving things from 3 different states since last year when I got divorced and I had plenty to do so I just never sat still. I had a day or two where when I would breathe, I can only compare it to what breathing in shards of glass would probably feel like. A couple of days it felt like my eyes were trying to be scooped out of their sockets. I think one thing that hurt me more than anything is I was not eating, and I looked like a skeleton with skin stretched over it. I had days where I was so ridiculously exhausted that I could do nothing but sleep. Every other day though, I kept deep breathing and kept moving. On the days I felt so sick and miserable, I tried to make an effort to get up and move as much as possible. I was sick for weeks. I was also completely by myself at home when I had covid. I had really great support from my nursy best friend, parents, and a few absolute sweethearts and their family from this site! But I took care of myself by myself. The lowest my O2 was ever were in the high 70s and that was with exertion.

Here it is the end of July and I still cannot smell, and my taste is still very off. I ache all over sometimes, some days I am beyond exhausted, and my breathing is not quite back to where it should be. And my lungs were in great shape. I walked 5 miles every day and worked out for 2 hours every day. I am technically considered in the category of "long covid" or "long haul covid".

So, that is what I know and have experienced. The things seen since the covid shot rolled out is a whole different awful and crappy ball of wax. And if anyone is wondering and afraid to ask, NO, I have NOT had a covid shot and will not EVER get it. I am not an anti-vaxxer by any stretch, but I absolutely do NOT advocate for taking the shot. However, to each their own.
 

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Sounds like you work in a terrible place with one mask per day. Entry into my wife's hospital was like airport security. She had unlimited masks and wore face Shields at all times, and still does when dealing with some patients.

Her pediatric patients have cancer , brain tumors, and endocrine deficient so their immune systems are very weak to start with.

I am glad I work in the forest, I couldn't imagine going through what our good Doctors and nurses go through daily.
 

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Sounds like you work in a terrible place with one mask per day. Entry into my wife's hospital was like airport security. She had unlimited masks and wore face Shields at all times, and still does when dealing with some patients.

Her pediatric patients have cancer , brain tumors, and endocrine deficient so their immune systems are very weak to start with.

I am glad I work in the forest, I couldn't imagine going through what our good Doctors and nurses go through daily.
No, I do not. I said when COVID first started. And that's great that your wife had access to all of that PPE. And it was one surgical mask per WEEK. And that was when everyone lost their minds with covid (and they have yet to find them) and ppe was very hard to come by.

And I do not do peds or oncology.
 

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Sure.

There is a long and short version of sorts, so bear with me please. The simple answer to your question is: Yes, there IS treatment for covid and TOO many people died and are continuing to die when they should NOT. Now, I said treatment, not cure. So, to qualify that statement, what I know firsthand is when COVID-19 first blew up, there were facilities that were administering Pulmicort nebulized breathing treatments, Zinc, Vitamins C, D, E, Mucinex, as well as antibiotics such as Doxy, and Zpacks. Also, Hydroxychloroquine. First Hydroxy was stopped, then antibiotics, then nebulized breathing treatments were stopped, then anything else that would help the cause. Drs and Nurses were being threatened with losing their license or were being fired if they administered certain drugs. If @ActionBob feels like sharing his experience, comparing the two is quite telling.

At the time I worked in Nebraska and that is where ALL the COVID positive people in the US were being sent. COVID positive was supposed to be housed in a negative pressure room. There were facilities that did not want covid patients AT ALL. After a while, other hospitals that had those rooms could take their allotment, which was only a few per facility, but then money started being thrown at facilities for having covid patients. They stopped putting them in negative pressure rooms and would make covid wards or close off a wing and put covid positive there. Some facilities (not all) were frantically trying to make room to take as many covid positives as possible. ($$$$)

The public began to be instructed very early on to stay at home unless you are having trouble breathing. So if you had covid, or thought you had covid, they wanted you to stay at home and self-isolate. They did not want to treat anyone at early onset. Everything was being done backwards. At early onset, they could have instructed people about plenty of things. All the nurses I knew, myself included, were taking all of the above-mentioned drugs/vitamins that did not require a prescription. We referred to it as a “covid cocktail”. We would tell friends and family to take same things and spread the word. Television and every news channel or media outlet were telling people not to take this or that and something as simple as ibuprofen. We were taking both aspirin and ibuprofen to keep our blood thin. The general public, if you had covid, you self-isolate, then, depending on how your body responds, you sit around and wait until you cannot breathe. Then you get to go to the hospital and then within days you get put on a vent and die. Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. Go directly to the vent and die. There was a patient that was in a car accident. Because of this person’s injuries, they were on a vent. They were on my floor, neuro/trauma critical ICU. They happened to be covid positive but were not sick from covid, and according to family, no one had symptoms of covid. The injuries from the wreck were the cause of death. But since they had covid, it was put “covid death”. The hospital gets more money.

I was exposed to covid all the time. I JUST tested positive in March of this year. We were given ONE paper surgical mask PER WEEK at work. Talk about disgusting!! I and others were always getting scolded for taking our mask off at work and I told them that mask was going to make me sick long before covid and they can fire me if they wanted to but I was not wearing it the whole time I was at work. Meanwhile, hospital administrators were in their office nowhere near patients, and they were wearing their N95 masks. Covid particles are not stopped by a surgical mask. A brilliant Dr said wearing a mask was like throwing sand at a chain-link fence and expecting the fence to stop it. And you need at least a N100 to do any good.

When I tested positive for COVID I had only symptoms of a cold at first. I only got tested to prove to a few people that I did not have covid. One morning I woke up and went to make my coffee and had absolutely no taste. Then, realized I could not smell anything either. I got a notification that my covid results were in and there glaring at me was my shiny new positive covid test result. I started taking Doxy as a prophylactic for pneumonia because I have had pneumonia a few times in my life. I always took my covid cocktail every day but what I did after my positive test result was deep breathing, increase the amount of aspirin and ibuprofen as well as zinc and vitamin C and LOTS of fluids, mainly water. Covid clots your blood at the capillary level. Once those clots reach the lungs, gas exchange cannot happen as it needs to and then, you cannot breathe. I also never sat still. I stayed up and moving ALL the time. I had been moving things from 3 different states since last year when I got divorced and I had plenty to do so I just never sat still. I had a day or two where when I would breathe, I can only compare it to what breathing in shards of glass would probably feel like. A couple of days it felt like my eyes were trying to be scooped out of their sockets. I think one thing that hurt me more than anything is I was not eating, and I looked like a skeleton with skin stretched over it. I had days where I was so ridiculously exhausted that I could do nothing but sleep. Every other day though, I kept deep breathing and kept moving. On the days I felt so sick and miserable, I tried to make an effort to get up and move as much as possible. I was sick for weeks. I was also completely by myself at home when I had covid. I had really great support from my nursy best friend, parents, and a few absolute sweethearts and their family from this site! But I took care of myself by myself. The lowest my O2 was ever were in the high 70s and that was with exertion.

Here it is the end of July and I still cannot smell, and my taste is still very off. I ache all over sometimes, some days I am beyond exhausted, and my breathing is not quite back to where it should be. And my lungs were in great shape. I walked 5 miles every day and worked out for 2 hours every day. I am technically considered in the category of "long covid" or "long haul covid".

So, that is what I know and have experienced. The things seen since the covid shot rolled out is a whole different awful and crappy ball of wax. And if anyone is wondering and afraid to ask, NO, I have NOT had a covid shot and will not EVER get it. I am not an anti-vaxxer by any stretch, but I absolutely do NOT advocate for taking the shot. However, to each their own.
Gina,
Thank you very much for that enlightening explanation of this mess. I am appalled that the medical profession administrators would actually deny people the necessary treatment and treat staff in such a reprehensible fashion. I hope you continue to recover quickly and completely.
 

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Gina,
Thank you very much for that enlightening explanation of this mess. I am appalled that the medical profession administrators would actually deny people the necessary treatment and treat staff in such a reprehensible fashion. I hope you continue to recover quickly and completely.
You are quite welcome! Thank you very much for the kind words and well wishes! :)
 

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Gina,
Thank you very much for that enlightening explanation of this mess. I am appalled that the medical profession administrators would actually deny people the necessary treatment and treat staff in such a reprehensible fashion. I hope you continue to recover quickly and completely.
+1 Thank you Gina
 

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Nature has a funny way of taking care of those who do not take viruses seriously. Do what you want but do not expect me to feel bad when you end up dead and definitely do not expect me to foot the bill for putting you on a ventilator. However, I will feel bad for all of the people you inadvertently infect and take down with you.
Do you say the same thing regarding the yearly flu shots which most people dont avail themselves of? Blame them for making others sick and to sometimes die?
Some 30000 plus Americans die every year from the yearly flu?
BTW, why be worried about what it cost? We have insurance, isnt that what its for?
 

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Crazy times. Trucking unvaccinated COVID positive illegals into our communities is unethical if not illegal.
Of course its illegal! Biden took an oath to "faithfully execute" the laws of this country. He isnt doing that!
 

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If you wanna get vaccinated, do it. If not, print your own vaccination paperwork on your handy home computer. Crisis averted lol
 

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If you wanna get vaccinated, do it. If not, print your own vaccination paperwork on your handy home computer. Crisis averted lol
Great idea. What could go wrong?

 

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If you wanna get vaccinated, do it. If not, print your own vaccination paperwork on your handy home computer. Crisis averted lol

Why even print up a fake card?

If you don't want to get vaccinated then don't, it's your choice. But like other choices it has consequences, and restricted travel just may be one of them.
 

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