Carbon Fibre Stocks

[CBH Australia]

any thoughts on Carbon Fibre stocks.?
I’m all for traditional stocks on hunting rifles particularly in hot dry countries like Africa, Australia.
Any thoughts on carbon fibre stocks for lightweight hunting rifles?

 

[gillettehunter]

I own 1 rifle with a fine wood stock. I rarely hunt with it for fear of tearing it up..... Most of my rifles have carbon fiber stocks. If they get scratched then so what? They are tougher than wood. No swelling due to water. Generally lighter weight. Some good positives.
Bruce

 

[Sika98k]

Google PSE Composite Stocks. They are made here in Ireland and exported pretty much everywhere in the world. Generally made for Tikka rifles. Extremely light, stiff and,uh, pricey !

 

[John J]

I'm looking at AG composit for a stock. McMillan will take to long to get. Gunsmith says they are just as good just a newer company. His preference is McMillan but he has been using them for 15 years and biased he says.

 

[gillettehunter]

I just ordered a AG composites stock. 6-8 week wait time compared to 4-8 months for a McMillan or Manners. About 20% less too. Seems to be a lot of people that like them. We'll see in a few weeks.
Bruce

 

[CBH Australia]

Thanks for replies.
The Kiwi Composites were available from retailers in Australia previously at around $900
Some people suggested STUG stocks but I’m. It sure if he is still making them.
Precision Defence Indutries PDI are somehow part of Bolly Aviation the stocks are made by people who make carbon fibre propellers.
The new Mk3 Featherweight Hunter has inletting that does not require bedding. Mk1 &Mk2 required inletting
They spent some time developing this. I handled a Mk2 ihe shape is the same.
They have a unusual shape in the grip, I personally I thinking that was engineers preference opposed to need.
Prices went up and I’m scared to spend at present but I guess we all are
The main reason I want one is for light weight and because they make them. I thought it would be good to have a light rifle to carry regularly walking .
The trade is is spending $1000 to save maybe 500g (100g in Laminate vs 600g C/F) but something that weighs bugger all would be nice to carry.

 

[Luvthunt]

Surprised no one has mentioned HS Precision or Brown Precision. Have both and they have held up well over the past 30 years or so.

 

[stug]

I made the stug/sggunstocks carbon fibre stocks. I’ve pretty much stopped due to the proposed changes in firearms legislation in NZ. That and freight companies being very difficult to work with. Carbon fibre is definitely the way to go if you want a light weight rifle. Depending on the stock you are replacing you will save 1/4 to one pound.

 

[CBH Australia]

I thought i asked you recently. You were getting recommendations from the Terminal Ballistics website forum.
PDI sent an email last week advising release due to my prior interest i asked a couple of questions no rrply. Found themon sale on their site and back to full price next day. I can but at full price later.
10% or their about is always makes me consider a bargain or impulse buy.
A pound is nearing a half kg and i think i can save a pound replacing a laminate stock. I think they have the lightest hunting stock ive seen.
I want 3 or 4 items to make my life complete until i find somethiing else

 

[Newboomer]

To me it depends on the rifle. For a lighter caliber composite will work. For my bigger dg guns (375HH, 9.3x62) I want a heavy stock, wood or laminate, to help mitigate recoil and muzzle jump. My Win 70 safari Express weighs just about 11 lbs wet. I don't mind the weight and it seems faster for followup shots. It's a featherweight compared to an M60 MG.

 

[CBH Australia]

Planning on the .308 but being Tikkas are all one length the end goal is maybe a lightweight 7mm-08 for hunting as i like it.
Hoping to buy a Tikka.300wm but thats likely to be put in the laminate i have if is synthetic. Pending secondhand market ivarious .300 come up i think some people just think they are a bit big and offload them.

 

[CBH Australia]

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Any more suggestions on Carbon Fibre stocks?
I have found PSE compositions online, an Irish company with a carbon fibre skeleton inside.
They make the skeleton or chassis to give it torsional stability I think is the term.
About 24oz and a few options on finish

 

[The_Wanderer]

CBH Check out Bolt Action Productions you tube channel. He bought one of the Kiwi composite ones and runs it in a tikka T3 in 7mm Rem Mag as a light weight mountain rifle.

 

[gillettehunter]

Got my AG composits stock last week. No chance to shoot the rifle yet, but I like it. Shaved 1-1 1/4 lbs of weight. Better ergonomics for me. It also has a high enough back portion that I don't need any sort of stock riser or stock pack to get my eye/cheek weld in the proper position to see through the scope.
Like was mentioned above might not be appropriate on a heavy recoiling rifle, but on my 6.5 it should work perfectly.
Bruce

 

[curtism1234]

I've been looking at a mcmillan edge series for my savage rifle. Hard to justify a $650 stock on a 20 year old $300 rifle, but I just dropped a timney trigger and bolt handle extender. Might as well go all out for an old friend...

I think the edge comes in at like 25 ounces. My factory Tupperware is 29

 

[Goose Cracker]

Just purchase a Christensen Ridgeline already. Already comes with a virtually indestructible carbon fiber stock. Could even spring for the Titanium Ridgeline that weighs in at something like 6 lbs for a 300 WM. Also accepts 6-48 Rem 700 bases, so loads of good choices there!

 

[GeoffB]

Bump
Any more suggestions on Carbon Fibre stocks?
I have found PSE compositions online, an Irish company with a carbon fibre skeleton inside.
They make the skeleton or chassis to give it torsional stability I think is the term.
About 24oz and a few options on finish

I have a few McMillan Edge stocks (Carbon/Graphite) on hunting rifles with one being well used as my go to pig gun for the last 11 years on a regular basis.
These stocks are available from various gunsmiths over here in Australia who have accounts with McMillan.
Regarding their weight a long action McMillan carbon stock comes in at approx 650 -670 grams (23 - 23.7 oz) depending on the recoil pad fitted. (thin presentation pad or 1" decelerator)
Talley lightweight rings for a Tikka are 65 grams (2.2 oz). These are an option to lighten your rings up if the ones you have are steel.
Weigh your current Tikka stock and compare the weights.
This image below is a bare McMillan Edge stock to suit a long action Rem 700 on the scales with a decelerator pad. The readout is in Kg.

Talley Lightweight Rings

Below is a McMillan Edge stock on my Rem .308.
The complete gun ready to roll is 3.1 Kg (6.8 lbs) with a 22" barrel.

 

[CBH Australia]

@GeoffB Thanks,
I had not looked to closely at McMillan, the ones I had seen were heavier and expensive From memory.
The few I have researched come in under $1100 and that is about my limit.
Weight wise, a few came under 700gm
if I even get one. I’m hoping under 700gm or approx 24ounces or there is little gain for the outlay.
I’m talking carry rifle and doing it just because so it’s not some high end long range setup or specialised outfit. A hunting stock hunting rifle, or “Go To” as you describe it.
Cleavers have Christensen Arms Ridgeline with all the gear that come in under 7lb weighing up options they are good value against others but I can’t have everything.
Where I work I can walk for pigs regularly shooting some occasionally, I need a GoTo in the safe for quick walks.

 

[GeoffB]

@CBH Australia
Yes the McMillan Edge comes in around $1100 to $1200 Aussie dollars at the current exchange rate.
The other thing worth considering is you can have it made with a custom length of pull.
I prefer a 356mm (14") length of pull.
Regarding the weight's McMillan can make the stock from a few different materials.
Normal sporter stocks are made of fiberglass construction and come in around 1.1Kg (2.4 lbs)
The Edge model is a graphite stock in a sporter shape like in the image I posted above.
Not all actions can be inletted in this model but they can do the Tikka T3.
You can get other stock shapes and models made in the lighter graphite material. This is called "EDGE fill"
A buddy of mine has the Sako Classic shape stock with his Tikka T3 inletted into that stock shape.
But as you have mentioned the weight saving was not a lot over the factory plastic stock.
I do recommend you add a bedding job into your budget if you plan on a McMillan. The fit is very good between the stock and metalwork but all of mine have shot much better after bedding and floating.

 

[Donnachaidh]

Bump
Any more suggestions on Carbon Fibre stocks?
I have found PSE compositions online, an Irish company with a carbon fibre skeleton inside.
They make the skeleton or chassis to give it torsional stability I think is the term.
About 24oz and a few options on finish

I've just had a PSE stock fitted to my Tikka T3X. PSE supplied the stock already bedded for this action, so it was a straight drop-in without any additional work required. It has improved the 'feel' of the rifle, and is a lot lighter than the factory synthetic stock. I've only used it at the range so far; it has reduced my group size down to 0.5 inches. Very impressed.