CANADA: British Columbia Moose Hunt???? Tenaka River Outfitters

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  2. tay50

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    Update , the name of the outfitter is Tenaka River Outfitters, they operate out of Fort Nelson BC, and they also have an Alberta outfit called Rugged Outfitters. Todd Bunnage and his son Grayson are the main players, as of today they have yet to refund money to our friend who came along as a observer. We have been in touch with the CO who worked that area, and he in turn gave our name to the new CO for the Fort Nelson, guess he will be wanting to talk to them this spring. The CO did say we should post the name of the outfit so no others get hosed by these two. We have also found out that there have been several complaints registered with the BCOA, concerning their failed hunts too. I know they spend the winter months going to sportsman shows from Montana to Arizona, beware, and google is your friend, just never know what you might find.
     

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    @tay50 I remember reading this thread awhile back. I recently started doing my own research for a BC moose hunt and talked to an interesting outfitter (not the one listed here). While doing some research and prior to you posting the name of your problem outfitter, I came across this article. It seems like the guy moves around and changes names of his company fairly frequently.

    https://www.reddeeradvocate.com/news/guide-outfitter-fined-36000-for-wildlife-act-offences/

    Guide-outfitter fined $36,000 for Wildlife Act offences

    Cardston-based guide-outfitter convicted of hunting out of season and without a licence

    Jul. 11, 2018 1:00 p.m

    A guide-outfitter was fined $36,000 for hunting out of season and without a licence in Red Deer provincial court on Wednesday.

    Richard “Todd” Bunnage, and his now-defunct Cardston-based company Rugged Outfitting, were convicted last month of eight Wildlife Act charges for incidents during guided hunts in the West Country in 2015.

    Judge Bert Skinner also banned Bunnage from acting as a guide-outfitter for five years.

    The judge said in sentencing that “by not getting the proper licences (Bunnage) was a very poor ambassador for Canada and Alberta.”

    Bunnage was guiding U.S. clients when the offences occurred. If word gets out that hiring guide-outfitters could lead to legal issues “this may put this entire industry in jeopardy,” said Skinner.

    “So, it’s very important the rules are followed.”

    Crown prosecutor Martha O’Connor was seeking $50,000 in fines and a 15-year guide-outfitting prohibition, pointing out Bunnage was already banned from personal recreational hunting for five years after Wildlife Act convictions in 2014.

    O’Connor said Bunnage’s actions had the “potential to impact the success of other hunters” and could hurt the reputation of the whole guide-outfitter business.

    Defence lawyer Richard Fritze called for smaller fines, arguing Bunnage was not involved in the kind of “blatant and abusive” behaviour that led to large fines and even a prison term in other cases.

    There is a “world of difference” in Bunnage’s case, he said.”It’s not like he was gaming the system …”

    Fritze also argued that there is a grey area in the province’s hunting licence system because it allows hunters to unknowingly buy invalid licences, adding the facts of the case don’t call for a “sledgehammer approach” in punishment.

    Bunnage also addressed the judge, saying he did not realize the hunting licences he had were not considered valid.

    “I was not playing the system in any way, shape or form,” said Bunnage.

    As part of the decision, the judge ordered that a pair of moose heads and hides taken in the illegal hunts be forfeited. Another head and hide were to be returned to the hunter because it was not connected to a conviction.
     
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    If the Outfitters has not purchased any of the quota in an Wildlife Management Unit they can not be hunting. Pretty straight forward if you can read. What did somebody say about ignorance?


    http://www.albertaregulations.ca/huntingregs/licencecosts.html

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    You know what is awesome, is if you google Tenaka River outfitters, this report is the 4th line item, right under their website and facebook. Be happy to know you were able to get the word out!
     

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    Asshole, should shot with a ball of his own shit.
    These guys Really piss me off. :Rage:
     

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    The bonus of having such a high profile platform.
     
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    Only if you freeze the ball first.
     
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    I'm glad my other 2 partners finally agreed to the posting of the outfitters name, and since I wan't the only one with skin in the game here, I honored their wishes. Since no emails, text messages or phone calls were answered it was decided to release their name. So now the 2 of us who have received some compensation have decided to pitch in some money and help our other buddy, so he can have closure too. I have also learned to not only research the hunting outfit, but also the outfitter himself or herself. I would still like to moose hunt somewhere in BC or Alberta, any suggestions wood be helpful. Thanks to everyone for their support, this is a great forum.
     
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    FYI....These guys are still at it. They have a hunt up for auction at the Western Hunting and Conservation Expo in SLC here in a few days. Outfit is now called Trophy Zone Outfitting.
     

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    Now, don't everyone run out and miss this opportunity.

    There you go.
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    I’m surprised the provincial association hasn’t shut them down.
     
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    There is something wrong with the provincial wildlife management system when you are banned from being a outfitter in one province and move a few hundred miles across the provincial border and go right back to setting up shop.
     

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    It may stop an individual, but that does not stop family members taking over or just changing the name of the company.

    Our local laws ban individual hunters from obtaining a license if they are under suspension in any jurisdiction.
     

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    I am sure that is what they are doing. It looks to be under a family members name ; Grayson Bunnage.
    But leopard doesn't change its spots.
     

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    I feel bad for the folks they are fleecing. BC and Alberta are once in a lifetime dream destinations for many. To have scumbags ruin it for them seriously pisses me off. Canada has so many great operators, and then there are these guys...
     
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