Brockman .458 Lott?

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,460
Reaction score
13,369
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
Anyone familiar with Jim Brockman rifles? There is a left hand .458 Lott that has been on gunsinternational.com for quite some time and I just seem to keep running into it.... I'm wanting a .458 and they just aren't that easy to find in left hand...

I like that this one has a little more heft than the Montana I've been looking at (not that I couldn't add weight to the Montana), but this one is at least an option.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/detail.cfm?gun_id=100324072
 

ActionBob

AH legend
Joined
Dec 12, 2011
Messages
3,844
Reaction score
6,221
Location
Central Minnesota
Media
97
Hunting reports
Africa
4
Mex/S.Amer
1
Member of
NRA life, DSC, SCI
Hunted
Minnesota, Texas, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, British Columbia, Argentina, Kansas, Macedonia, Austria
Looks like a great gun! Sounds like the seller will never make his planned safari so perhaps you need to help eliminate the reminder that he had it this close. And with all the extras he has offered separately, sounds like time to negotiate.

Does the bolt handle show wear or is that just lighting in the photo? Do you like the laminate? That thing should be a survivor and could handle a climate like Alaska.
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,460
Reaction score
13,369
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
Yeah, I would definitely negotiate, especially as I can get a brand new Montana for less, but this one is intriguing.

Good question on the bolt handle. I had thought it was lighting but now I'm not so sure. I'm fine with the laminate. Not my very first choice, but I'm more concerned with function than finish. I shot the seller a note. Will see if he responds. Like I said, it has been listed for a long time. So it may be sold, or has other issues?
 

ActionBob

AH legend
Joined
Dec 12, 2011
Messages
3,844
Reaction score
6,221
Location
Central Minnesota
Media
97
Hunting reports
Africa
4
Mex/S.Amer
1
Member of
NRA life, DSC, SCI
Hunted
Minnesota, Texas, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, British Columbia, Argentina, Kansas, Macedonia, Austria
Good luck! Most laminate is functional and heavy duty. Gotta like that that part.
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,460
Reaction score
13,369
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
Bump...

Still wondering if anyone knows about Brockman. The fact this rifle has been for sale for so long concerns me a little, but I keep going back and looking at it....
 

ActionBob

AH legend
Joined
Dec 12, 2011
Messages
3,844
Reaction score
6,221
Location
Central Minnesota
Media
97
Hunting reports
Africa
4
Mex/S.Amer
1
Member of
NRA life, DSC, SCI
Hunted
Minnesota, Texas, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, British Columbia, Argentina, Kansas, Macedonia, Austria
It has a 3 day inspection and return policy. If it is still for sale, negotiate it down on price! Also has 30mm QD rings.

What rifles do you have now in left hand? How bad do you need or want it?

I almost pulled the trigger on a M70 anyversary special 458 win and been kicking myself ever since... A used one now is $500 more than I could have bough that new for only a couple years ago.... They had it on closeout, not a very big market for a gun like that.
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,460
Reaction score
13,369
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
It has a 3 day inspection and return policy. If it is still for sale, negotiate it down on price! Also has 30mm QD rings.

What rifles do you have now in left hand? How bad do you need or want it?

I almost pulled the trigger on a M70 anyversary special 458 win and been kicking myself ever since... A used one now is $500 more than I could have bough that new for only a couple years ago.... They had it on closeout, not a very big market for a gun like that.

That's kinda my dilema. I have a .375 H&H and don't "need" the rifle, at least not now. Best case I go on a tuskless hunt in 4-5 years. Until then this rifle would just be fun to have and fun to shoot.

I was hoping that someone could offer up experience with the gunmaker that might influence me, but since that hasn't happened I think that I will probably just wait a bit and then get a Montana AVR. The montana is 1 LB lighter (only 8 lbs), but that can certainly be fixed if need be and it is $1000 less.

I'm probably just going to wait unless someone comes along and tells me this rifle is a steal.
 

ActionBob

AH legend
Joined
Dec 12, 2011
Messages
3,844
Reaction score
6,221
Location
Central Minnesota
Media
97
Hunting reports
Africa
4
Mex/S.Amer
1
Member of
NRA life, DSC, SCI
Hunted
Minnesota, Texas, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, British Columbia, Argentina, Kansas, Macedonia, Austria
On this board we may tend to forget there is not a lot of demand for used big bore guns. Even less for left handed. The ad basically says he will never use it. Throw out an offer for $1000 on it if you like it. Do it such that it does not insult him and let him stew on it for a while. Sorry I know nothing of the brand.
 

matt85

AH legend
Joined
Jan 7, 2014
Messages
2,666
Reaction score
1,988
Location
WA, USA
Media
28
Hunted
USA, South Africa, and Namibia
don't concern your self with words like "need", if you want it then buy it. I don't "need" a rifle in 505 Gibbs but I bought one anyway because I want one!

but as the others have said here make sure you bargain the price down some. id offer him more then $1000 but still under $2000 and see what he says.

-matt
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,460
Reaction score
13,369
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
don't concern your self with words like "need", if you want it then buy it. I don't "need" a rifle in 505 Gibbs but I bought one anyway because I want one!

but as the others have said here make sure you bargain the price down some. id offer him more then $1000 but still under $2000 and see what he says.

-matt

Like I needed to ask what your position on this would be Matt!!!! :)

Part of it is the whole "afford" word right now too. The plan has always been to buy a Montana over the next 1-2 years well before I "need" it, but after I've saved up a bit more again. I'm asking about the bluing and will then decide on making an offer. I don't want to pay anymore than I would pay for the Montana regardless. That I do know. Brand new on Brockman's site this is a $4.3K rifle, so it probably will come down to whether this guy needs the money or if he is willing to hang onto it for a while. It has been for sale for well over six months I think.
 

matt85

AH legend
Joined
Jan 7, 2014
Messages
2,666
Reaction score
1,988
Location
WA, USA
Media
28
Hunted
USA, South Africa, and Namibia
there could be a reason im broke all the time...:whistle:

id rather eat cheap pasta every night for dinner and have nice guns then eat good food and only dream of nice guns!

-matt
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,460
Reaction score
13,369
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
there could be a reason im broke all the time...:whistle:

id rather eat cheap pasta every night for dinner and have nice guns then eat good food and only dream of nice guns!

-matt

I would be fine with that, but my wife ISN'T!!! :cautious:
 

Kano

AH senior member
Joined
May 12, 2013
Messages
99
Reaction score
107
Location
East Africa
Make an offer that you are comfortable with, and that is acceptable to the seller (I don't think $1,000 would be...). If the rifle is good, fits you, and you like it, keep it. Check that it feeds .458 WM properly, and if it does not get it to feed (a good gunsmith can do that). The shorter .458 WM cases in long actions are finicky to feed, but when the rail/ramp geometry is tuned there is no problem. Left-handed .458 Lotts are difficult to sell, but also difficult to come by...
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,460
Reaction score
13,369
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
Make an offer that you are comfortable with, and that is acceptable to the seller (I don't think $1,000 would be...). If the rifle is good, fits you, and you like it, keep it. Check that it feeds .458 WM properly, and if it does not get it to feed (a good gunsmith can do that). The shorter .458 WM cases in long actions are finicky to feed, but when the rail/ramp geometry is tuned there is no problem. Left-handed .458 Lotts are difficult to sell, but also difficult to come by...

Both the seller and I agree with this! We made a deal. I'll have the rifle within a couple of weeks. :)

DSC_0027-2.JPG
 

enysse

AH ambassador
Joined
Jan 20, 2009
Messages
11,729
Reaction score
4,303
Media
136
Hunting reports
Africa
8
USA/Canada
1
Member of
Northeast Wisconsin SCI chapter, Lifetime member of NRA,RMEF
Hunted
Namibia, South Africa (East Cape, Guateng and Limpopo)
Congrats Royal, looks like a super nice rifle!
 

Kano

AH senior member
Joined
May 12, 2013
Messages
99
Reaction score
107
Location
East Africa
That will do the job! Play with it until your wife gets a problem with that, then take it to Africa!
 

ActionBob

AH legend
Joined
Dec 12, 2011
Messages
3,844
Reaction score
6,221
Location
Central Minnesota
Media
97
Hunting reports
Africa
4
Mex/S.Amer
1
Member of
NRA life, DSC, SCI
Hunted
Minnesota, Texas, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, British Columbia, Argentina, Kansas, Macedonia, Austria
Now you've gone and done it... You'll have to save up for an elephant hunt!
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,460
Reaction score
13,369
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
Now you've gone and done it... You'll have to save up for an elephant hunt!

I told my cousin I bought it. He said, "good, now you're committed."

I think 2018 will be leopard/tuskless. If the ban stands in Zim I might just do another buff. The sacrifices we have to make!!!!
 

tarbe

AH legend
Joined
Jan 26, 2014
Messages
4,202
Reaction score
7,074
Location
Cypress, TX and Romance, MO
Media
120
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
1
Member of
NRA Life, Handloaders Anonymous
Hunted
USA, South Africa, Zimbabwe
Nice snag!

Brockman has a very good reputation and has done a lot of customizing work on big bore levers for many years. I would be surprised if this rifle is not well sorted out.
 

tarbe

AH legend
Joined
Jan 26, 2014
Messages
4,202
Reaction score
7,074
Location
Cypress, TX and Romance, MO
Media
120
Articles
1
Hunting reports
Africa
1
Member of
NRA Life, Handloaders Anonymous
Hunted
USA, South Africa, Zimbabwe
Oh, and by the way, you are my new hero!

You go to Zim for Buff and Hippo, back a few weeks and buy a Brockman customized Lott...and you are going for PG in RSA next May.

I need to take a few lessons from you!
 

Forum statistics

Threads
36,721
Messages
696,114
Members
64,551
Latest member
ArdisHersh
 

 

 

Latest posts

Latest profile posts

Rifle57 wrote on Rimshot's profile.
I bought some bullets from Rimshot and he is good to trade with!
Greetings all! I've been a hunter for 50 years, but only now planning a trip to Africa. I was fortunate and successfully bid on a couple hunts for plains game in SA later this year and next. Also a rare Native Texas (5th generation) and USMC Vet. Hunt safe y'all!
uujm wrote on trg's profile.
I am looking for a Safari Express. Was yours made in New Haven or South Carolina? Any other details you can give me? I am very motivated to buy.
pimes wrote on flatwater bill's profile.
Hello Bill - can you tell me that landowner/ranch/outfitter - Thank you!
Pete0905 wrote on damundsen87's profile.
Hello
Is the Khales 1-6 still for sale?
Thanks
Josh
 
Top