I bought a s/h bettinsoli over and under for my eldest to use now that he is big enough. We went out for a nightflight the other night and we didn't have to wait long before a small bunch of geese came in. He didn't need telling twice, up the gun went and his first shot brought down a pinkfoot. Not long after some greylags came in and he bagged another 2. We left with geese still coming in very satisfied with our night.