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Hey , just an update l wanted to give anyone who might purchase a double trigger Over Under 12 gauge BRNO shotgun .
The first trigger only fires ONE barrel.
The second trigger works as a non selective trigger. If you pull it first , it will let off one barrel . If you pull it a second time , it will let off the other barrel .A good alternative to pulling the first trigger and then the second one , if you don't like the two trigger set up :)
I found this out today.
 

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View attachment 304373Hog Shot with Buck Shot ! :D
No pun intended :p .
Co incidentally , this is the first animal in my life which l have shot with Number 4 Buckshot ( always preferred 000 or at least 00 ) . I'm impressed by it's effectiveness at close range . Look how Concentrated it is !
BTW , for anyone who might benefit from the information : Brenekke slugs will go through a 300 pound hog like butter. Foster slugs will not ( in my experience anyway )
PS : Ignore My dog , T Bone , in the background
Hoss,
Yeah, uh, kind of a mess with the buckshot? I would stick with slugs in a shotgun. Probably less meat damage also? But, nice concentrated shot pattern!
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Yeah, uh, kind of a mess with the buckshot? I would stick with slugs in a shotgun. Probably less meat damage also? But, nice concentrated shot pattern!
CEH
As l read your comment , l concede that you are right , CEH :( I recently had one of the WORST TRACKING JOBS in my entire life a couple days ago when hunting one of these feral hogs . He was a big boy .... 250 pounds , maybe . Feeling confident of the Number 4 Buck shot load in my over under , l let fly at the hog. He was at a broad side position at 18 yards . The most favorable shooting position in my opinion. I was aiming for the lungs , heart region. Well ... Upon getting the shot , he took to his heels and started running ! I put another shot into him from the rear as he was going. It staggered him , but that's about all it did. I ran after him , desperately breaking the gun open and ejecting the empty shells and putting in two more. I haven't lost an animal in 27 years , but Damn, he was fast. I know very well that it is basic Hunter's ethics never to leave a wounded animal to die in lingering pain . Close to 40 gruelling minutes later , l put a third load of Number 4 Buck Shot into his cranium at ( what can for all practical purposes be considered ) point blank range. THAT did him in. Upon examination , it turns out he had 54 PELLETS IN HIM . My shots were well placed . The first shot ( Broadside position ) is that same shot which dispatched an Australian Water Buffalo with a .375 HH Magnum 300 gr FMJ round nose solid from Kynoch. This time , however , only one pellet reached a lung and l have VERY STRONG DOUBTS that it would be fatal. This , serves as a very important lesson : Never use Number 4 Buckshot for pigs above 180 pounds in weight . I am even scared now to try it on Deer . :( Seems a good idea to keep some Brenekke Magnum slugs on hand , as an insurance , next time l try to pull off a fool hardy stunt like this.
 

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As l read your comment , l concede that you are right , CEH :( I recently had one of the WORST TRACKING JOBS in my entire life a couple days ago when hunting one of these feral hogs . He was a big boy .... 250 pounds , maybe . Feeling confident of the Number 4 Buck shot load in my over under , l let fly at the hog. He was at a broad side position at 18 yards . The most favorable shooting position in my opinion. I was aiming for the lungs , heart region. Well ... Upon getting the shot , he took to his heels and started running ! I put another shot into him from the rear as he was going. It staggered him , but that's about all it did. I ran after him , desperately breaking the gun open and ejecting the empty shells and putting in two more. I haven't lost an animal in 27 years , but Damn, he was fast. I know very well that it is basic Hunter's ethics never to leave a wounded animal to die in lingering pain . Close to 40 gruelling minutes later , l put a third load of Number 4 Buck Shot into his cranium at ( what can for all practical purposes be considered ) point blank range. THAT did him in. Upon examination , it turns out he had 54 PELLETS IN HIM . My shots were well placed . The first shot ( Broadside position ) is that same shot which dispatched an Australian Water Buffalo with a .375 HH Magnum 300 gr FMJ round nose solid from Kynoch. This time , however , only one pellet reached a lung and l have VERY STRONG DOUBTS that it would be fatal. This , serves as a very important lesson : Never use Number 4 Buckshot for pigs above 180 pounds in weight . I am even scared now to try it on Deer . :( Seems a good idea to keep some Brenekke Magnum slugs on hand , as an insurance , next time l try to pull off a fool hardy stunt like this.
Hoss (or anyone),
After reading the above from you Hoss, I am now thinking (dangerous again!) if one could shoot buckshot through a tight “turkey “ choke ? I’ve got both that choke and some 12 ga. 00 buckshot. Maybe I’ll try it? Maybe not? I believe it would work?
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Hoss (or anyone),
After reading the above from you Hoss, I am now thinking (dangerous again!) if one could shoot buckshot through a tight “turkey “ choke ? I’ve got both that choke and some 12 ga. 00 buckshot. Maybe I’ll try it? Maybe not? I believe it would work?
CEH
You shouldn't do that , man . The Buckshot will deform . I speak from personal experience . Generally , a full choke shouldn't be used to fire anything larger than BB. Anything larger and either the barrel bulges ( worst case scenario ) or the shot deforms badly ( best case scenario ) . My BRNO ZH 301 patterns well with nothing larger than Number 4 Buck Shot ( 27 pellets ) , but it is a modified choke in both barrels. Originally , it was modified choke in one barrel and full choke in the other , but my wife had it reamed out to Modified choke in both barrels :) Buck Shot requires a more open choke , l believe :)
 

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You shouldn't do that , man . The Buckshot will deform . I speak from personal experience . Generally , a full choke shouldn't be used to fire anything larger than BB. Anything larger and either the barrel bulges ( worst case scenario ) or the shot deforms badly ( best case scenario ) . My BRNO ZH 301 patterns well with nothing larger than Number 4 Buck Shot ( 27 pellets ) , but it is a modified choke in both barrels. Originally , it was modified choke in one barrel and full choke in the other , but my wife had it reamed out to Modified choke in both barrels :) Buck Shot requires a more open choke , l believe :)
Hoss,
I’ve shot buckshot out of a modified barrel before with no problem, but never out of a full or turkey choke. Maybe Bruce would know?
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Ah , Co - Elk Hunter . Thank you for wishing me :) To start with , let me begin by saying that you just asked the same question l found myself asking all those years ago , when l first got introduced to this practice. In Sweden , hunting roe deer with shotgun over dogs is EXTREMELY popular. I do this every October / November . :) The season for doing this is ( I believe ) from September to January ( l may have to check up on that , since l never went earlier than October and later than November). Now, Sweden has a VERY stupid law which prohibits hunters from Firing slugs from double barrel shotguns ( beats me why anyone would make such a law :( ) . Something about accuracy being too inconsistent to be safe ( yeah , yeah . I know. Stupid logic ) . Buck shot also is not allowed . Hunters who hunt Roe Deer with dogs , therefore use Double barrel shotguns ( virtually always over unders or over under combination guns ) loaded with #1 shot. If l didn't do it so many times , being an American , l myself would assume that using #1 birdshot on roe deer is the stupidest thing to ever do. But l know for a fact that a load of #1 birdshot at point blank (ish ) range , fired from a moderately choked shotgun ( to keep the shot charge concentrated ) WILL completely pole axe a roe deer. I have done it before with Beretta 12 gauge over under shotguns which l borrowed and my older BRNO over under full choke 12 gauge :) . The very first time , l ever saw someone do this was , by using a Valmett Over Under combination gun ( One barrel was a full choke 12 gauge shotgun barrel with a 2 3/4 inch chamber . One barrel was a 5.2 × 56R rifle barrel , which we Americans know as .22 Savage Hi Power ) . He was using #3 shot from Game Bore at the time, and he took Lots of roe deer !
I must stress however that you should ONLY ever attempt to use a Shotgun loaded with #1 birdshot IF and ONLY IF , you are hunting them over hounds .
Finally , roe deer are pretty small :) Think of them as equal in size to an African Duiker :)
PS : Funnily enough , when l first mentioned this practice , a month ago , fellow forum Member , Red Leg actually asked if this was even legal to do :p . You guys basically ask the same question l did when l first became aware of this practice.

First of all, congratulations (birthday and wife) :)

Secondly, a few comments on the hunting regulations in Sweden (in case anyone is still interested). I would guess there is more suspense regarding your present. :)

You're right that driven hunts for roe deer is quite a popular form of the sport. The dog used would be rather slow paced, and of a breed that barks every now and then while following a deer track. Just enough to disturb, but not to scare into full flight. Roe deer are then quite prone to slowly try to evade what is pursuing them, by making 'figures of eight' in or around dense brush where they think they can hide. The hunters can then position themselves around the area where a deer is likely to appear. Shotguns are commonly used, usually with #1 - #3 shot size. Maximum recommended shot distance is approx 25 yards. It may sound like weak medicine, but it works - as Hoss has noted. A roe deer is not that big, Certainly smaller than any of the US species (white tail, black tail, mule etc). More like a smallish springbok or a vaal rhebok. (And you can of course try without a dog - but your chance of succeeding would be very much smaller).

However, during first part of the deer season, which starts on August 16th (just after the rut - bucks only), neither dogs nor shotguns are allowed, only stalking/waiting and rifles (min cal ~ 223-ish). From September 1st, fawns are also allowed, as well as shotguns. Does and dogs become legal from October 1st. The season ends in end of December (northern Sweden) and end of January (southern Sweden). Also some eastern parts of the country have a short season for bucks in May and June.

The reason for this is the fallout from the Chernobyl nuclear incident back in 1986. Before the summer there is not much new growth to eat, and the deer meet has lower radiation levels, compared to after the summer when they have been eating all the fresh new grass which has been growing in the contaminated soil.

As for the rules regarding slugs and double barrel shotguns, well... maybe not THAT stupid, as an O/U shotgun is not really the same as a properly regulated double rifle, i.e. several shots from one barrel may group well, but there is no guarantee that it will be all that close to where the other barrel groups. That is part of the rationale anyway. I don't think that anyone here is really suffering much from that regulation (I've never even fired a slug in my life). If one want's the capability of a rifle, well, then you bring a rifle. That being said, slugs (from a legal, single-barreled gun) are allowed for wild boar, and also for fallow deer (more like US deer in size).

Sorry for the rather long off-topic explanation
 

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First of all, congratulations (birthday and wife) :)

Secondly, a few comments on the hunting regulations in Sweden (in case anyone is still interested). I would guess there is more suspense regarding your present. :)

You're right that driven hunts for roe deer is quite a popular form of the sport. The dog used would be rather slow paced, and of a breed that barks every now and then while following a deer track. Just enough to disturb, but not to scare into full flight. Roe deer are then quite prone to slowly try to evade what is pursuing them, by making 'figures of eight' in or around dense brush where they think they can hide. The hunters can then position themselves around the area where a deer is likely to appear. Shotguns are commonly used, usually with #1 - #3 shot size. Maximum recommended shot distance is approx 25 yards. It may sound like weak medicine, but it works - as Hoss has noted. A roe deer is not that big, Certainly smaller than any of the US species (white tail, black tail, mule etc). More like a smallish springbok or a vaal rhebok. (And you can of course try without a dog - but your chance of succeeding would be very much smaller).

However, during first part of the deer season, which starts on August 16th (just after the rut - bucks only), neither dogs nor shotguns are allowed, only stalking/waiting and rifles (min cal ~ 223-ish). From September 1st, fawns are also allowed, as well as shotguns. Does and dogs become legal from October 1st. The season ends in end of December (northern Sweden) and end of January (southern Sweden). Also some eastern parts of the country have a short season for bucks in May and June.

The reason for this is the fallout from the Chernobyl nuclear incident back in 1986. Before the summer there is not much new growth to eat, and the deer meet has lower radiation levels, compared to after the summer when they have been eating all the fresh new grass which has been growing in the contaminated soil.

As for the rules regarding slugs and double barrel shotguns, well... maybe not THAT stupid, as an O/U shotgun is not really the same as a properly regulated double rifle, i.e. several shots from one barrel may group well, but there is no guarantee that it will be all that close to where the other barrel groups. That is part of the rationale anyway. I don't think that anyone here is really suffering much from that regulation (I've never even fired a slug in my life). If one want's the capability of a rifle, well, then you bring a rifle. That being said, slugs (from a legal, single-barreled gun) are allowed for wild boar, and also for fallow deer (more like US deer in size).

Sorry for the rather long off-topic explanation
I love long explanations :) I learnt some new things too . Thank you so much for enlightening me .
 

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First of all, congratulations (birthday and wife) :)

Secondly, a few comments on the hunting regulations in Sweden (in case anyone is still interested). I would guess there is more suspense regarding your present. :)

You're right that driven hunts for roe deer is quite a popular form of the sport. The dog used would be rather slow paced, and of a breed that barks every now and then while following a deer track. Just enough to disturb, but not to scare into full flight. Roe deer are then quite prone to slowly try to evade what is pursuing them, by making 'figures of eight' in or around dense brush where they think they can hide. The hunters can then position themselves around the area where a deer is likely to appear. Shotguns are commonly used, usually with #1 - #3 shot size. Maximum recommended shot distance is approx 25 yards. It may sound like weak medicine, but it works - as Hoss has noted. A roe deer is not that big, Certainly smaller than any of the US species (white tail, black tail, mule etc). More like a smallish springbok or a vaal rhebok. (And you can of course try without a dog - but your chance of succeeding would be very much smaller).

However, during first part of the deer season, which starts on August 16th (just after the rut - bucks only), neither dogs nor shotguns are allowed, only stalking/waiting and rifles (min cal ~ 223-ish). From September 1st, fawns are also allowed, as well as shotguns. Does and dogs become legal from October 1st. The season ends in end of December (northern Sweden) and end of January (southern Sweden). Also some eastern parts of the country have a short season for bucks in May and June.

The reason for this is the fallout from the Chernobyl nuclear incident back in 1986. Before the summer there is not much new growth to eat, and the deer meet has lower radiation levels, compared to after the summer when they have been eating all the fresh new grass which has been growing in the contaminated soil.

As for the rules regarding slugs and double barrel shotguns, well... maybe not THAT stupid, as an O/U shotgun is not really the same as a properly regulated double rifle, i.e. several shots from one barrel may group well, but there is no guarantee that it will be all that close to where the other barrel groups. That is part of the rationale anyway. I don't think that anyone here is really suffering much from that regulation (I've never even fired a slug in my life). If one want's the capability of a rifle, well, then you bring a rifle. That being said, slugs (from a legal, single-barreled gun) are allowed for wild boar, and also for fallow deer (more like US deer in size).

Sorry for the rather long off-topic explanation
CMK,
I really like your explanation and insight on this subject. But you guys are killing me with using buckshot on deer, when there are perfectly good slugs available (even .410 gauge), which would work better with the hunting of any size deer? But, I realize tradition style hunting is important too, so go with what works for you. I’ll stick with a slug though for anything bigger than a rabbit.
CEH
 

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First of all, congratulations (birthday and wife) :)

Secondly, a few comments on the hunting regulations in Sweden (in case anyone is still interested). I would guess there is more suspense regarding your present. :)

You're right that driven hunts for roe deer is quite a popular form of the sport. The dog used would be rather slow paced, and of a breed that barks every now and then while following a deer track. Just enough to disturb, but not to scare into full flight. Roe deer are then quite prone to slowly try to evade what is pursuing them, by making 'figures of eight' in or around dense brush where they think they can hide. The hunters can then position themselves around the area where a deer is likely to appear. Shotguns are commonly used, usually with #1 - #3 shot size. Maximum recommended shot distance is approx 25 yards. It may sound like weak medicine, but it works - as Hoss has noted. A roe deer is not that big, Certainly smaller than any of the US species (white tail, black tail, mule etc). More like a smallish springbok or a vaal rhebok. (And you can of course try without a dog - but your chance of succeeding would be very much smaller).

However, during first part of the deer season, which starts on August 16th (just after the rut - bucks only), neither dogs nor shotguns are allowed, only stalking/waiting and rifles (min cal ~ 223-ish). From September 1st, fawns are also allowed, as well as shotguns. Does and dogs become legal from October 1st. The season ends in end of December (northern Sweden) and end of January (southern Sweden). Also some eastern parts of the country have a short season for bucks in May and June.

The reason for this is the fallout from the Chernobyl nuclear incident back in 1986. Before the summer there is not much new growth to eat, and the deer meet has lower radiation levels, compared to after the summer when they have been eating all the fresh new grass which has been growing in the contaminated soil.

As for the rules regarding slugs and double barrel shotguns, well... maybe not THAT stupid, as an O/U shotgun is not really the same as a properly regulated double rifle, i.e. several shots from one barrel may group well, but there is no guarantee that it will be all that close to where the other barrel groups. That is part of the rationale anyway. I don't think that anyone here is really suffering much from that regulation (I've never even fired a slug in my life). If one want's the capability of a rifle, well, then you bring a rifle. That being said, slugs (from a legal, single-barreled gun) are allowed for wild boar, and also for fallow deer (more like US deer in size).

Sorry for the rather long off-topic explanation
I was at work so l could not give a detailed reply . To start with , l must offer my most sincere of apologies for sounding Disrespectful to your beautiful Country's Hunting regulations :) l love Hunting roe deer in Sweden and l should not have called it " Stupid ". That was my error. I did initially find the idea of hunting a four legged critter with #1 bird shot to be stupid , until l actually tried it out and l have not hunted roe deer any other way for the last 5 or 6 years . I have even made a few posts on these forums defending and even praising this practice :) About the buckshot and slug rule , your logic for these hunting regulations , while different from my personal views ( due to growing up shooting lots of slugs and buckshot ) , they are a sound logic , none the less :)
As a side note , l am impressed with myself as to how accurately l described the Roe Deer hunting practice in Sweden , as it matches your description pin point :)
I hope to be in Sweden two weeks later for this year's Roe Deer hunt with my wife.
 

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Hoss, no offense taken, and no apologies needed. :) :) As you say, traditions plays a large part in how hunting is done in most parts of the world. And I must admit that some of our rules make less sense than others - even to us Swedes. We happily shoot moose with the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser, but do not allow the 22LR for hares. :)

I wish you a great trip and it would be interesting to know which part of the country your traveling to.
 

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Hoss, no offense taken, and no apologies needed. :) :) As you say, traditions plays a large part in how hunting is done in most parts of the world. And I must admit that some of our rules make less sense than others - even to us Swedes. We happily shoot moose with the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser, but do not allow the 22LR for hares. :)

I wish you a great trip and it would be interesting to know which part of the country your traveling to.
South side :) for more details , will inbox
 

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Hoss,
I’ve shot buckshot out of a modified barrel before with no problem, but never out of a full or turkey choke. Maybe Bruce would know?
CEH
Well , l do know FOR A FACT that a Remington 11-87 with a 3.5 inch Chamber can fire 00 shot (18 pellets ) through its full choke tube :) A guy down here uses it for coyote
 

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First of all, congratulations (birthday and wife) :)

Secondly, a few comments on the hunting regulations in Sweden (in case anyone is still interested). I would guess there is more suspense regarding your present. :)

You're right that driven hunts for roe deer is quite a popular form of the sport. The dog used would be rather slow paced, and of a breed that barks every now and then while following a deer track. Just enough to disturb, but not to scare into full flight. Roe deer are then quite prone to slowly try to evade what is pursuing them, by making 'figures of eight' in or around dense brush where they think they can hide. The hunters can then position themselves around the area where a deer is likely to appear. Shotguns are commonly used, usually with #1 - #3 shot size. Maximum recommended shot distance is approx 25 yards. It may sound like weak medicine, but it works - as Hoss has noted. A roe deer is not that big, Certainly smaller than any of the US species (white tail, black tail, mule etc). More like a smallish springbok or a vaal rhebok. (And you can of course try without a dog - but your chance of succeeding would be very much smaller).

However, during first part of the deer season, which starts on August 16th (just after the rut - bucks only), neither dogs nor shotguns are allowed, only stalking/waiting and rifles (min cal ~ 223-ish). From September 1st, fawns are also allowed, as well as shotguns. Does and dogs become legal from October 1st. The season ends in end of December (northern Sweden) and end of January (southern Sweden). Also some eastern parts of the country have a short season for bucks in May and June.

The reason for this is the fallout from the Chernobyl nuclear incident back in 1986. Before the summer there is not much new growth to eat, and the deer meet has lower radiation levels, compared to after the summer when they have been eating all the fresh new grass which has been growing in the contaminated soil.

As for the rules regarding slugs and double barrel shotguns, well... maybe not THAT stupid, as an O/U shotgun is not really the same as a properly regulated double rifle, i.e. several shots from one barrel may group well, but there is no guarantee that it will be all that close to where the other barrel groups. That is part of the rationale anyway. I don't think that anyone here is really suffering much from that regulation (I've never even fired a slug in my life). If one want's the capability of a rifle, well, then you bring a rifle. That being said, slugs (from a legal, single-barreled gun) are allowed for wild boar, and also for fallow deer (more like US deer in size).

Sorry for the rather long off-topic explanation
Every region and nation has its own hunting traditions, and I do not wish to seem critical. However, the drive hunts you describe late in the year sound like a terrible way to manage roe deer. I have been fortunate to hunt in Europe a good bit - Germany, Austria and Spain - never Scandinavia. But everywhere I have hunted roe deer, the bucks drop there antlers toward the end of October. During a drive hunt late in the season, aren’t you as likely to kill the promising 2 1/2 year old or what would be a fabulous 5 1/2 year old buck as a doe or a fawn? Or do you simply not manage for trophy deer, and shooting antlerless animals, regardless of age or trophy potential, is not important? Would really like to understand.
 

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Red Leg,

I'm sure that some young bucks with potential are shot 'by mistake' each winter :) , but even during a driven hunt, you still have a reasonable chance of assessing the sex of the deer. But some hunters do not care a lot about trophy size (or lack thereof). In that sense they are not managed as a species (unlike e.g. moose or red deer, which have quotas).

The roe deer is the most common deer species and I think that some 100.000+ are shot each year. And I believe that at least 10.000 fall victim to traffic accidents. Where there is decent control of predators (fox mainly), there is no real shortage of roe deer. Of course, there are more deer in the southern parts of the country, as well as along the eastern coast. There are far less numbers in the northwestern, mountainous inland.

Another thing that may play a part is that hunting is popular in the other sense of the word, i.e. in a lot of places smaller plots of land, and the associated hunting rights, are owned by private citizens. This means that someone who has hunting rights on e.g. 300 or 500 acres may not get a moose on quota, but can surely go and bag one or a few roe deer each year. So in some ways, this may favour opportunistic hunting, and trophy management ideas may not be relevant at all. ('If I don't shoot this deer, my neighbour will', so-to-speak). Of course, there are some bigger landowners who really manage their deer with very selective hunting, as well as hunters on smaller lands who try to do the same (even though their neighbour may not).

Also in the countryside, in more rural areas (for lack of a better word - there is usually still internet and paved roads), game meat can make up a considerable amount of the meat consumed by a family. So hunting can be a lifestyle, and also a way putting food on the table/in the freezer.
 

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Red Leg,

I'm sure that some young bucks with potential are shot 'by mistake' each winter :) , but even during a driven hunt, you still have a reasonable chance of assessing the sex of the deer. But some hunters do not care a lot about trophy size (or lack thereof). In that sense they are not managed as a species (unlike e.g. moose or red deer, which have quotas).

The roe deer is the most common deer species and I think that some 100.000+ are shot each year. And I believe that at least 10.000 fall victim to traffic accidents. Where there is decent control of predators (fox mainly), there is no real shortage of roe deer. Of course, there are more deer in the southern parts of the country, as well as along the eastern coast. There are far less numbers in the northwestern, mountainous inland.

Another thing that may play a part is that hunting is popular in the other sense of the word, i.e. in a lot of places smaller plots of land, and the associated hunting rights, are owned by private citizens. This means that someone who has hunting rights on e.g. 300 or 500 acres may not get a moose on quota, but can surely go and bag one or a few roe deer each year. So in some ways, this may favour opportunistic hunting, and trophy management ideas may not be relevant at all. ('If I don't shoot this deer, my neighbour will', so-to-speak). Of course, there are some bigger landowners who really manage their deer with very selective hunting, as well as hunters on smaller lands who try to do the same (even though their neighbour may not).

Also in the countryside, in more rural areas (for lack of a better word - there is usually still internet and paved roads), game meat can make up a considerable amount of the meat consumed by a family. So hunting can be a lifestyle, and also a way putting food on the table/in the freezer.
Understand and thank you. Managing for quantity and opportunity is just as valid as quality. Some of our States - Pennsylvania for instance - manage largely for opportunity. Others manage for quality. Individual land owners usually focus on quality. But like Scandinavia, a small land owner is likely happy to simply put a deer in the freezer.
 

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Update , the gun does pattern well with A CERTAIN Type of 00 Buckshot :D
Winchester 12 pellet ( copper plated ) 2 3/4 inch 00 Buck Cartridges .
So l decided to stock up :D
PS : Also got a nice box of #2s which will be my roe deer load next month :)
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