Anyone use a drilling?

[Longwalker]

I am in the early stages of planning a mixed bag hunt, something very different than a plains game hunt that I did last time.
Buffalo and Eland on the big end, birds and some tiny antelope on the small end.
The rifle choice for the big stuff is easy - my Ruger RSM .375 H & H. For bird shooting and small antelope, I am considering bringing my Krieghoff 16 ga.x16ga. / 7x57R drilling. I realize I could shoot everything except birds with a .375, but would prefer not to use it on the small stuff. I realize I can borrow or rent a shotgun, but my drilling fits me, and I like shooting it and it is very very versatile and accurate with the 7x57 barrel and 3-9x scope in claw mounts.
So I'd like your thoughts and the answers to two questions:
- would a drilling count as ONE firearm towards the two-gun limit that many countries restrict hunters to for import permits?
- is 16 ga ammo usually available or would it need to be special ordered far ahead of time? ( I asked this once before on here but did not get much response)

 

[Red Leg]

No problem on the drilling. I have never heard of one being counted as multiple weapons. They have a single serial number. Have seen several clearing customs in Windhoek, which, of course, gets large numbers of German hunters each year. Ammunition is another issue. 12 g 2.75 loads are common; 20 g are obtainable; one of our member Afrikaners will have to weigh in on 16 bore.

 

[Longwalker]

thanks Red Leg, I'll just have to contact my PH when the time comes to determine if 16 ga. ammo is available or not.

 

[Amon458]

Why can't you bring 16ga ammo with you.

 

[Red Leg]

Bird shooting in the RSA resembles Argentina more than it does the US. The weight restriction wouldn't get you through an afternoon shoot, much less several days.

 

[thriller]

I just bought a new JP Sauer Drilling in 12x12x 30-06 this gun is perfect for the swamps I hunt deer and hogs in Alabama. What I was wondering is What scope I should put on it? I have a trijicon 1-4 and a Swarovski 3-10. the guns scope will be on quick detach mounts. I'm leaning towards the 1-4 but wanted some other opinions before I have mounts built for a scope.

 

[Odinsraven]

Have a bsw shul in 12 2.34 and a 9.3 74r beneath use it in Czech and Bulgaria for piggie hunting keep a 12g slug there when the piggies are around then switch to pheasant loads...

Useful weapon made in 1938 o/u a previous owner I assume bored it cylinder however has provided me with much fun

 

[Red Leg]

Have a bsw shul in 12 2.34 and a 9.3 74r beneath use it in Czech and Bulgaria for piggie hunting keep a 12g slug there when the piggies are around then switch to pheasant loads...

Useful weapon made in 1938 o/u a previous owner I assume bored it cylinder however has provided me with much fun

That is indeed an awesome combination - same one the Luftwaffe chose to equip their aircraft in North Africa as a survival weapon. A friend has killed at least three buffalo with his during the last five or six years. Obviously, it is a great combo for boar.

 

[Odinsraven]

That is indeed an awesome combination - same one the Luftwaffe chose to equip their aircraft in North Africa as a survival weapon. A friend has killed at least three buffalo with his during the last five or six years. Obviously, it is a great combo for boar.

Nope just an o/u one barrel shotgun one rifle ...However a friend has the one you mention ...so want one ....

 

[IvW]

I want a 12ga/12ga/9.3×74R with some insert barrels

 

[Odinsraven]

I want a 12ga/12ga/9.3×74R with some insert barrels

There is one for sale in the classifieds on here ;-)

For Sale Sauer & Sonn M30 1981 With Zeiss Glass

3000 LUX 12-BORE / 9.3X74R 'LUFTWAFFEN DRILLING M30' BOXLOCK NON-EJECTOR DRILLING, serial no. L1005, This is a Unicorn - The Gun is as new! Only 50 Made in 1981 to celebrate 50 years of the manufacture for the Luftwaffe 'Luftwaffen Drilling M30', flip-up open sights, blade fore-sight, the...

www.africahunting.com

 

[IvW]

Looks real nice... import and insert barrels are the issue, has to come in one batch not afterwards barrels are what are licenced here..price is a bargain....thx for the heads up

 

[WebleyGreene455]

I want a 12ga/12ga/9.3×74R with some insert barrels

I found a 12-12-9.3 that I thought was x74 but unfortunately it turned out to be x72. Disappointment abounded.

 

[Excessexpress]

Looks real nice... import and insert barrels are the issue, has to come in one batch not afterwards barrels are what are licenced here..price is a bargain....thx for the heads up

As much as I like the German models I would strongly suggest you take a good look at the Zoli MG92.

 

[IvW]

I have a 9.3x74R/12ga and the problem with the Zoli is the barrels are are silver soldered, no regulation device such as on the two German guns...Krieghoff unfortuanately only make 20ga I need 12ga. So the Merkel looking better for that

 

[mark-hunter]

Interesting fact, I know number of hunters who own drillings, but I have never seem them taking drilling to actual hunting. They cherish it as a relic! The first thing they will show from their gun lockers, their safe queens. They represent tradition, and beautiful work by gunsmith artisans.

It could be also, that modern hunting is specialised. Average modern hunter will need either bolt action, or shotgun for specific hunt he is doing, and today drilling could be using his multifunction purpose in moderntimes.

I have never been into drillings for actual use in hunting (even as bespoke guns), but there is one I would like to own and have it for hunting:
Luftwafe M30 Drilling - issued to Luftwafe as survival gun, for aircraft crews in African campaign, ww2.
Made by J&P Sauer & Sohn. 12GA and 9.3x74R. Photos from internet.

 

[SFRanger7GP]

I hunt with mine quite a bit. It is a Krieghoff with 16x16 over 7x57R. I think a good drilling and a Boykin Spaniel are the ideal companions when you're just kicking about on the lease.

 

[SFRanger7GP]

I have killed quite a few pigs with it; rightly so considering the scratchings on the stock.

 

[Foxi]

That is indeed an awesome combination - same one the Luftwaffe chose to equip their aircraft in North Africa as a survival weapon. A friend has killed at least three buffalo with his during the last five or six years. Obviously, it is a great combo for boar.

the Luftwaffendrilling.
That was a spleen of Herman Göring.
As a weapon for the forest,for me a Drilling is perfect.
The today's hunter generation with us rejects that.
Rapid fire it must be ,then you believe it goes more......
For backup, I think it's better than any repeater.
You can't get three shots out of any gun faster than from a Drilling.

 

[Hallgeir Gravråk]

If you are going thru Jo,burg, ask the driver to stopp at Safari and Outdooe just outside of Pretoria, I`ll think they hav all you need, send them a request.