Aging eyes and iron sights

Pheroze

AH legend
Joined
Jul 6, 2013
Messages
4,021
Reaction score
4,664
Location
Ontario
Media
75
Articles
19
Hunting reports
USA/Canada
1
Member of
OFAH, DSC
Hunted
South Africa, Canada, USA
I need my glasses for distance, particularly in dim light. I only use them for driving and hunting (typically contacts for the latter). I can make out objects a distance much better with them on. The problem is that with them on the iron sights are extremely hard to make out. I try to focus on the front sight but the rear presents as such a blur I cannot tell whether the front is in the notch or not. Even the front sight remains blurred a bit. I was experimenting today without glasses and I can aim well with both the iron sights and the scope is totally fine. For targets its fine. I am considering hunting without glasses but I am concerned about picking out the critter in the woods. Is it time to give up on iron sights? Or has anyone else faced a similar dilemma and figured out a way to cope?
 

sestoppelman

AH ambassador
Joined
Apr 25, 2010
Messages
7,685
Reaction score
7,712
Media
172
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
3
Member of
NRA, NA Hunt Club
Hunted
Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe (2), Namibia (2), South Africa (2)
Well this is a problem as we get older. I am 61 and still using store bought reading glasses, have about 5 pair scattered about the house in various powers! I use low power for driving, TV etc. Reading up close at 3X, computer at 2X, work bench at 2.5X etc. Last summer in RSA with my peep sighted .405 lever action, I thought I had it all figured out.:ROFLMAO: Used my normal low powers for hunting and had an older pair of prescription glasses either in my pocket or around my neck on the strings you can buy. Well one day we got on some eland, I went to grab that pair of glasses, put them on my face and felt like I was going to fall over!:eek: One of the lenses had fallen out of the frame and when I was figuring this out the little frame screw fell out in the grass and well good bye Charlie! I got pissed off, grabbed the stupid glasses and flung them into the bush! My boy looked at me like I was nuts but I knew I would never find that tiny, miserable, little stinking screw!:mad: I think the only real answer here is to bite the bullet and get fitted for transitional bifocals that allow the use of the irons. Its a real PITA for sure!:(
 

Red Leg

Lifetime bronze benefactor
AH ambassador
Joined
May 19, 2009
Messages
6,684
Reaction score
19,529
Location
Texas Hill Country
Media
285
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
2
USA/Canada
5
Mex/S.Amer
1
Europe
3
Member of
SCI DSC life memberships / NRA Patron Life
Hunted
Mexico, Namibia, RSA, Germany, Austria, Argentina, Canada, Mozambique, Spain, US (15 states)
I have exactly the same problem. You will find handgun sights are even worse. I have concluded that great sight visibility is of questionable value if I can't clearly see the target. I have tried specially made progressive lenses for shooters, but I pretty much hate trying to shift focus between sights and target while wearing them - not intuitive. You might try peep sights. Two of My scoped DG rifles have peeps as back-up. I use large rings and they are very accurate out to 125 yards or so. I also spent the better part of three decades using them in the military, so they are pretty much second nature. You might set up a rifle with them and see how they work for you. However, all my primary rifles now where scopes - even the big boys.
 

Pheroze

AH legend
Joined
Jul 6, 2013
Messages
4,021
Reaction score
4,664
Location
Ontario
Media
75
Articles
19
Hunting reports
USA/Canada
1
Member of
OFAH, DSC
Hunted
South Africa, Canada, USA
I am resigned to the thought that I could not use the iron sights in an emergency. I will keep trying but I think there is a good chance I will shoot myself in the ass.
 

sestoppelman

AH ambassador
Joined
Apr 25, 2010
Messages
7,685
Reaction score
7,712
Media
172
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
3
Member of
NRA, NA Hunt Club
Hunted
Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe (2), Namibia (2), South Africa (2)
I am resigned to the thought that I could not use the iron sights in an emergency. I will keep trying but I think there is a good chance I will shoot myself in the ass.
Are you that creative??:LOL:
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,481
Reaction score
13,464
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
For me I think this is going to mean a good red dot eventually. They just work so well.... I put one on an AR15 several years ago and really started to lIke them. Never thought I would.

Until that time, I have to have a big white front sight.
 

Rob404

Bronze supporter
AH legend
Joined
Jan 6, 2013
Messages
3,695
Reaction score
4,672
Location
Chaska Minnesota
Media
54
Hunting reports
Africa
2
Member of
NRA, Member Minnesota Horse and Hunt,,Caribou Hunt Club
Hunted
Illinois,Wisconsin,Michigan Limpopo Province South Africa
All my Rifles are scoped,,it's a bit expensive but a fact of life
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,481
Reaction score
13,464
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
All my Rifles are scoped,,it's a bit expensive but a fact of life

Mine are too, except my Lott and an AR. I even scoped my 10/22 so that I could practice snap shots and off sticks.

BUT! Now I want to go back and do a tuskless with iron sights, maybe another buff too. Just something about being all up close and personal....
 

Red Leg

Lifetime bronze benefactor
AH ambassador
Joined
May 19, 2009
Messages
6,684
Reaction score
19,529
Location
Texas Hill Country
Media
285
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
2
USA/Canada
5
Mex/S.Amer
1
Europe
3
Member of
SCI DSC life memberships / NRA Patron Life
Hunted
Mexico, Namibia, RSA, Germany, Austria, Argentina, Canada, Mozambique, Spain, US (15 states)
Always go back for another buff!
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,481
Reaction score
13,464
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
Always go back for another buff!

Maybe meant with open sites, as opposed to a scope. Might leave the scope on for the buff. :E Shrug:
 

Pheroze

AH legend
Joined
Jul 6, 2013
Messages
4,021
Reaction score
4,664
Location
Ontario
Media
75
Articles
19
Hunting reports
USA/Canada
1
Member of
OFAH, DSC
Hunted
South Africa, Canada, USA
The rear iron sight on my 798 is a very narrow 'v' shape. As a result, I find it hard to pick up the front sight quickly. I have noticed the CZ seems to have a wider 'v' on all three of the rear leafs. I wonder if a wider notch would be easier to use with all that blurring? Royal27, perhaps the style of iron sight you use when you go back for buffalo could accommodate whatever lack of sharpness in your vision is there.
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,481
Reaction score
13,464
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
My Lott has a notch, not a V and it is definitely better. Dark on dark gets lost though. Something I learned at SAAM though definitely helps and I think the military teaches it too. I start with looking at the front sight. And when I say start the idea is to be on the front site before the rifle is even shouldered. Then find the target. When I do it, it works.
 

Kano

AH senior member
Joined
May 12, 2013
Messages
99
Reaction score
113
Location
East Africa

Attachments

  • CZ-Peep-1.jpg
    CZ-Peep-1.jpg
    53.2 KB · Views: 60

spike.t

Sponsor
Since 2013
AH ambassador
Joined
Sep 12, 2010
Messages
10,461
Reaction score
12,995
Website
www.takerireservezambia.com
Media
337
Articles
7
Hunting reports
Africa
3
Member of
sci int, basc,wpaz
Hunted
zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england

BRICKBURN

Super moderator
Contributor
Lifetime titanium benefactor
AH ambassador
Joined
Aug 5, 2010
Messages
23,022
Reaction score
17,605
Location
Canada
Media
412
Articles
24
Hunting reports
Africa
8
USA/Canada
2
Europe
1
Hunted
Namibia, South Africa, Botswana, Mozambique, Canada, USA, Mexico, England
try getting your eyes lazered , bloody amazing the difference!!!

Great for acuity, but it can bugger you up for seeing in low light.
 

spike.t

Sponsor
Since 2013
AH ambassador
Joined
Sep 12, 2010
Messages
10,461
Reaction score
12,995
Website
www.takerireservezambia.com
Media
337
Articles
7
Hunting reports
Africa
3
Member of
sci int, basc,wpaz
Hunted
zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england

BRICKBURN

Super moderator
Contributor
Lifetime titanium benefactor
AH ambassador
Joined
Aug 5, 2010
Messages
23,022
Reaction score
17,605
Location
Canada
Media
412
Articles
24
Hunting reports
Africa
8
USA/Canada
2
Europe
1
Hunted
Namibia, South Africa, Botswana, Mozambique, Canada, USA, Mexico, England
yeah i have heard that but never had that problem myself.

Younger (mid thirties) buddy of mine got it done and his eyes are useless at first and last light.
Glad you missed out on that complication.
 

Royal27

AH ambassador
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
9,481
Reaction score
13,464
Media
109
Articles
5
Hunting reports
Africa
6
Member of
DSC, NRA, SCI
Hunted
USA - TX, CO, GA, ID. Africa - Zimbabwe, Zambia, and South Africa (Limpopo and EC)
Younger (mid thirties) buddy of mine got it done and his eyes are useless at first and last light.
Glad you missed out on that complication.

My eyes don't see as well in low light and I'very double vision for two years. Not as bad as it used to be, but still there.

I'm not the poster child for lasic.....
 

Pheroze

AH legend
Joined
Jul 6, 2013
Messages
4,021
Reaction score
4,664
Location
Ontario
Media
75
Articles
19
Hunting reports
USA/Canada
1
Member of
OFAH, DSC
Hunted
South Africa, Canada, USA
I was advised not to have laser correction as, over time, my prescription will actually get better for close work.

I found this really cool popup peep sight by Brockman. It will pop up on a spring when the scope is removed. Comes with a Talley base. But it is not designed to the 798 :(
 

BRICKBURN

Super moderator
Contributor
Lifetime titanium benefactor
AH ambassador
Joined
Aug 5, 2010
Messages
23,022
Reaction score
17,605
Location
Canada
Media
412
Articles
24
Hunting reports
Africa
8
USA/Canada
2
Europe
1
Hunted
Namibia, South Africa, Botswana, Mozambique, Canada, USA, Mexico, England

Forum statistics

Threads
37,619
Messages
718,750
Members
67,225
Latest member
HansGuerci
 

 

 

Latest profile posts

Cervus elaphus wrote on Bob Nelson 35Whelen's profile.
Hi Bob, how's things going in Wyong?. Down your way a couple of years back but haven't been in NSW since Ebor for the fishing. just getting over some nasty storms up here in Qld, seeing the sun for the first time in a few days. I'm going to NZ in the spring and hope to clean up a few buns while there and perhaps shake the spiders out of my old .303LE (currently owned by my BIL). Cheers Brian
A couple pictures of the sable i chased for miles in Mozambique, Coutada 9!! We finally caught up to him and I had the trophy of a lifetime. Mokore Safaris, Doug Duckworth PH
sable Coutada 9.JPG
sable 2 - Coutada 9.JPG
Safari Dave wrote on egrmpty507's profile.
Did you purchase your hunt at a US SCI fundraiser?
uplander01 wrote on colorado's profile.
Heard you may have load data for the 500 Jeffery,.....any info would be appreciated. Was thinking 535gr, but already had a response that the 570gr would be a better way to go, not sure why.
Rickmt wrote on Leica Sport Optics's profile.
will Leica Amplus 6-2.5x15x50 fit on a pro success Blaser with low mount?
 
Top