Lost posts from a thread titled BEWARE: M&C Investment International UK originally posted by AH member HDP Safaris...
HDP Safaris said:Hi guys,
A person/s who claims to work for an investment company called 'M&C Investment International UK', is a scam artist and part of a investment con syndicate. I will not use the name the person/s used because there are honest people out there with the same name.
A person/s used the above company name to try and scam me, it is an organised syndicate that offer phony investment opportunities to unsuspecting and gullible individuals.
The dead give-away in this instance is that they know as much about hunting as any person who googled the word "hunting" would know...nothing really, so they don't know how to approach you in the way a normal hunting client would nor do they have that discernment. It's very obvious that the company is fake and the people involved are uneducated and grossly inexperienced about hunting, they only know how scams work, but not how hunting works.
I will not post the emails they sent me on this or any other thread, nor give you the contact details they left me. Rather do your own research. I'm not posting this to prove what i'm saying is true, i'm just warning you guys that this syndicate is trolling this AH forum for business opportunities(scams).
They have tried to sucker me into making investments with them, by posing as different people with different agendas at different times. For example, I first received a call from a somebody who made a very professional yet vague pitch about his interest in my company, and that he would then allow his 'boss' to call me the next week, i tried to get verification of his company bvut he was very vague and 'quick' on that subject. I immediately called my accounting and business agent after this dodgy call about whether my company registration details is available to the general public or not, and it is not, nor did I give permission to list it anywhere, AND, at the time, the institution I registered with did not legalise anything yet, so the story they gave me about finding my company info on a 'general company database' that was solicited from their IT and marketing group is utter nonsense, which is what I suspected the minute I got the first call. Then, after I told the 'boss' to get lost and that I am not interested, I received two emails from a 'woman' who claimed that she saw my pics on the internet, that she loves traveling, and that she wishes to get to know me because im attractive and that people are attracted to me (lol, perhaps she hasn't seen me up close!!!). Anyway, the point of this is that 'she' wants to get financial information from me eventually, I am a single man but I am not so desperate for love and affection that I would jump on this bandwagon of interested parties like 'women who love travel'. I immediately told her to get lost as well, and this time I also made it very clear that I was aware of the scam and the relation between the two calls and these two emails, ie, im not a fool. Lastly, a man who called himself 'x', emailed me about making a booking for hunts in march, that I should call him immediately about getting a booking with a hunting lodge that has a conference facility for business individuals...the manner in which the email was sent, the desperation, the irrelevant material used as a means to secure a booking, all alluded to a bullsh###er who knows absolutely nothing of hunting or has any intention of going hunting. Why would an interested party introduce his company name as well??? And then brielfy ask about, and I quote " a lodge that has the hunting, call me immediately!"...?
When I asked them for a website address : they said it was under construction. When I asked for a name of the person I was talking to: it was very quick and not easily pronounced. When I asked for their business registration details: the person very quickly said something 'professional' and changed the subject very quickly. They tried to be overbearing and forceful but also tried to make me think I was in control by saying "remember, you are under no obligation..." but then they would try and talk over me and pretend not to hear what I was asking about verification details. They try and swindle individuals by being overbearing, informed, professional, and dominant about the pitch. Do not entertain any company that calls you out of the blue with a desperate interest to make you give them investement monies, it's quite simple and I do not believe that many people are so foolish, but the reason they are in business is because there are a few people out there who fall for it. DON'T BE ONE OF THEM!
All the emails, calls etc that I received are linked to the UK. When I googled 'Allen Bradley M&C Investment International UK', a list of similar names and companies came up obviously, but what sealed their fate with me is that a list of unlisted and criminal syndicates that operates as investment brokers etc came up as well. I did not google the word 'criminal', 'phony investement', 'investment scams'...I simply googled the above words and came up with a few links to unauthorised companies, clearly this company posing with this name and othe rother similar names has done this before.
The reason I am posting this is to say:
-Keep your information tight
-Becareful of what you say on the forum
-Check your privacy settings on AH
All this goes without saying and is tacitly understood anyway, its a public forum so there are individuals who try this on every type of public forum with businesses on them. But I would like to reitterate this safety measures because it's a reality that we should not become too relaxed about.
They watched my threads and posts and tried to use it against me.
They are watching the AH forum for opportunities (scams).
The information I got about them is that they are operating in the UK and that they are most likey run by a nigerean syndicate.
Google the company name and find out for yourself.
Keep well all,
owenowen said:HI there,
Thanks for the info. Yes many scammers out these days. I had calls in the past from people based in the UK saying that they are a top commodity /equity trader from Hong Kong. I also had many scam emails coming to my email address since it on this site i think they are targeting many of us.
HDP Safaris said:The first guy who called me said exactly that, top commodity/equity trading based in Hong Kong. He cut the call short when I started asking "questions". His pitch was that his company represented another company that would call me later, which they did, but I called their game and told them to get lost.
owenowen said:That's them yes they will call you like once a month .. after they realize you are too cleaver for them they will leave you alone !! Scammers irritate the hell out of me and may they be warned if you scam or cheat in anyway you will get it back at you 5 time worse !!!
HDP Safaris said:I already made it quite clear to them that I am aware of all of their tactics so far and that they are not dealing with an idiot. I may be young, new to business, slightly inexperienced etc...but i'm no fool. I think they read all my posts and viewed my profile and figured me for young and easy bait! But they got a big surprise. I've got a brain between my ears and that's all it takes to see the inconsistent crapola that they try to sell. I don't wish anyone bad, I just wish they leave us all alone and get a job!!!
GUBU SAFARIS said:Hello guys,
I received several emails so be aware.
Hello, My name is A..... B.....from M&c Investment International UK. I want to know if there is any availability for 5 guests coming for Business meeting that needs Hunting services if possible. They are coming for visit. If there is availability, kindly let me know about the dates and the quotes. They are looking forward to Arrive on 23th March 2012. Mode Of Payment includes the listed below Visa Master Amex Card. Write me immediately with an update on the list of all the Hunting services you can offer and available at that time. Call me anytime. Best Regards, Allen Phone Numbers :+44-702-405-xxxx
Thank you for the replied e-mail below,However the 5 guests are to hunt for 2 days, Kindly Let me know your spacing in dates from the said date, Also your cost as they do not have any specific animal to hunt for as you can highlight me on animals that will be available for Hunt.Also if you provide the services listed below .
4. Rifle Rent e.t.c
At this juncture let me know your list of animals along their prices/trophy and their costs alternatively or a list be made as the guest might choose their hunt at arrival
Kindly Let me know the cost of the questions below as we will be making a deposit payment for the hunt.Kindly Send me a quote
I googled his name an found out right now.
So please be aware people
HDP Safaris said:I received this exact email too. I received another altered version when I did not respond. The time-frame between the phone calls from the fake investment brokers, these specific emails, and two other "unrelated" emails is within two weeks of each other...ALL traced back to the UK.
HDP Safaris said:If you google 'M&C Investments International UK', you get to a company website called 'MC Investments UK' which is a legitimate company.The name the company is wrong, there is no 'International' in this company's name, im sure if the guy was representing his company or working the company and chose to use teh company name in the email he would not have ADDED the word International becasue it would be misleading. Plus po mention of his name anywhere even if you search hard. There is also no '&', and as afr as i know comapnys are listed exactly as they are registered with all the punctuation andwording precisely as it was registered (save for the obvious abbreviated types).
So, I guess the premise is to use a common or similar company name so that when you google it you will find lots of company names that are similar, and reduc suspiscion. Also the guys name is very common and found on many other business sites. But the two dont meet at one point, ie. the guys name is never together with the company's name (a company name that cannot be found on the net if you google it, only similar other company names).
I went to the company's 'search company name or directors name' area and searched his name and found many names but not one related to the company he claims to represent. MC Investments is also listed as dissolved as of 20 feb 2011. I still cannot find the exact company name he claims to represent anywhere on the net. This is the url for MC Investements: M C INVESTMENTS UK LTD of N20 0RA in WHETSTONE LONDON (M C INVESTMENTS UK LTD of N20 0RA in WHETSTONE LONDON)
Go to this site to check out the forms that scams take: Scams and swindles
I believe, just off the top of my head, that eventually you will become comfortable and divulge necessary finacial information with the people scamming you. And I could have been a victim because initially when I got the first call and heard that an investment company was interested I thought I could get money...but then I realised that soon they would ask ME for money becasue they started to talk about makin nvestements into the stock market,so I told them 'goodbye'.
Shavesgreen said:Yep, I got the exact same emails!!