7x66 Scharfgeschoss Express vom Hofe...Happy Days

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I think I've joined an interesting and unique group - reloading the 7x66SE vH cartridge, and I couldn't be happier!
My Mauser 66 barrel is on its way, I just received 50 brand new brass from Süddeutsche Hülsenmanufaktur and a set of custom Redding dies are on order.

So now I am looking for loads and what you use them for. I'm looking at you @Luederitz, @Phil Giordano, @ABIGFOOTZ and others.

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Really happy that it worked to ship the brass to Canada!

I own 4 rifles in cal. 7x66SE vom Hofe.
Designed in 1955, base cartridge .404 Jeffery, rebated rim (13mm), 60° shoulder...


My favorite powder was Hodgdon H1000 (no longer available in the EU), now I use IMR 8133 (or 79777 for lighter bullets).
Depending on the twist I load 120gr (lead-free) Aero bullets, 140gr Nosler Ball. Tip (or Accubond), 165 gr Sierra TGK or 168gr Accubond LR.
Magnum primers, between 77-79gr of powder.
If the magazine length allows it, the L6 is up to 91mm.

Picture below:
.28 Nosler with 175gr ELD-X
4x 7x66SE with 140gr Ballistic Tip, 168gr AB LR, 165gr TGK, 140gr Aero

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@Luederitz
How is the accuracy of those heavier boat tail 165gr TGK and 168gr Accubond LR?
Have you tried the Swift Scirocco II?
Enrico Andreolli noted in his online article for Norma that he had issues with them in his Mauser 66.
 
Depends on the twist.
I own barrels with 11“ and 9“, not surprisingly the heavy bullets work excellent with the 9“.
With the CIP standard twist the limit is 140/150 gr…
But Mauser supplied also factory barrels with shorter twist. So you need to test whats possible….
 
@Luederitz
I will check the twist rate on my barrel as soon as it arrives, I should have it next month.
I’m hoping the dies arrive next month as well.
Were your barrels all factory or were any custom made?
 
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I have a 66 in 7 mm SE v Hofe and use it at the range and in the field, having shot chamois and red deer at distances. Original double triggers and 66 stock shape. A great solid hitting round and one that you as a reloader can experiment with....

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Have still got some Lutz Möller loads plus some handloads from a reloading friend.

Starting to get rare like hens teeth .....

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I still have some of his 3rd generation KJG in 7mm, 105 gr at 3550 fps out of a 7 RM with RL 17, most precise bullet I ever found, no hold over for varmints to 350 y. Perfect for longrange wolf in the north with the bait in the middle of the fraser river.
 
Thank you for that, I had forgotten about that source for brass.
 
Shouldn't the thread title read 7x66 Super Express vom Hofe?
Interestingly, the old Gehmann ammo labels clearly say, ‘Super Express’ and of course there is a ton of sites that also use Super Express. But i found the reference for Scharfgeschoss Express at XXL-Wiederladen.de and XXLReloading.com:

“Named after its creator, the “SE” in its designation stands for “Scharfgeschoss Express” (meaning Sharp Bullet Express in German), emphasizing its high-velocity characteristics.”

XXLReloading aggregates data from manufacturers and the German DEVA proof house and is a group of German, French and American shooting and reloading dudes, you would think they know their stuff. Maybe it’s just a crock, I haven’t been able to find any other reference to Scharfgeschoss Express and 7x66 v. Hofe. I’ll keep looking.
 
Maybe the following clarifies the matter:

Ernst August vom Hofe (died 1945) was a German weapons and ammunition designer known for developing high-velocity hunting cartridges. Together with Richard Schienmann, he founded the company HOFMANN WAFFEN und MUNITION, which operated under the name VOM HOFE WAFFEN und MUNITION from 1935 onwards.

The 7x73 Super Express vom Hofe was developed in 1931 by Ernst August vom Hofe and his partner Schienmann for Mauser 98 systems. The corresponding weapons were produced by the Hoffmann company in Berlin. After 1936, vom Hofe also produced weapons in this caliber under his own name. The use of a belt on the case was unusual for a German manufacturer. In 1937, the two 5.6x61 Super Express vom Hofe cartridges were developed, for which there is a rimmed version and also a rimless version. the 7x66 SE vom Hofe was designed in 1955 by Walter Gehmann. His goal was to achieve the case volume of the 7x73 Super Express vom Hofe from 1931 with a case length of 66 mm, thus allowing it to be used in standard Mauser systems. Unlike the 7x73 Super Express vom Hofe, the 7x66 SE vom Hofe does not have a belted case.

The 7 × 66 mm Suoer Express vom Hofe was developed in 1955 by Walter Gehmann as a further development of the 7 × 73 mm vom Hofe, which in turn was based on the .300 Holland&Holland. The 7 × 66 mm SE vH has the same case volume as its predecessor, the 7 × 73 mm vom Hofe, but is 7 mm shorter. This means it also fits into standard systems. The cartridge was originally developed for post-war Vom-Hofe weapons, which in turn were based on the Swedish Husqvarna-Mauser system (“Schwedenmauser”). It was launched in Germany in 1956 and in the USA in 1962. Later, the caliber was also used in other systems, such as the Mauser 66. The 7x75R Super Express vom Hofe was developed in 1958 for break-action rifles based on the 9.3x74R case.

The 5,6x61 Super Express vom Hofe as a rimless as well as rimmed version which were developed in 1937 are still sometimes used in Germany and Austria beside the two "Gehmann developments" that carry the name "vom Hofe" as a high-velocity round. In any case these are very interesting historic rounds.
 
Have still got some Lutz Möller loads plus some handloads from a reloading friend.

Starting to get rare like hens teeth .....

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I have about 8 or 9 10,3mm bullets from Lutz. I usually get outbid on his bullets on egun. This is the last of my secret stash.
 
I have about 8 or 9 10,3mm bullets from Lutz. I usually get outbid on his bullets on egun. This is the last of my secret stash.

Johannsen bought the Lutz Möller design and they produce meanwhile the bullets.
 
You made my day!

So awesome!
 

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