7 Day South African Hunting Safari for Two Hunters With NB Safaris

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  1. nwduckhunter

    nwduckhunter New Member

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    Hi all,

    Purchased this hunt at a local DU auction and unfortunately cannot go anymore due to a new baby.

    Included in the hunt:
    -7 day hunt for 2 hunters with NB Safaris in South Africa
    -Services of a licenced professional hunter
    Transport to/from O.R. Tambo Intl Airport in Johannesburg
    -Serviced Accommodation
    -All meals
    -Drinking water, soft drinks, house wine, and beer
    -Laundry Service
    -Skinning and field preparation of harvested trophies
    -Each hunter will have their choice of an Impala or Blesbok included in this price. Also you can upgrade packages to include their 5 or 7 animal packages.

    Excluded:
    -Air travel before, during, or after the contracted period of safari
    -Accommodation/travel charges incurred before/after the safari
    -Air charters
    -Cocktails
    -Hired rifles and ammunition
    -Gratuities to professional hunters and other staff
    -preparation, packing, documentation and trophy export

    Hunt must be used within two years of 9/15/15

    Paid $1250 for it, hoping to get my money (or trade) back.

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  2. BRICKBURN

    BRICKBURN AH ENABLER SUPER MODERATOR CONTRIBUTOR LIFETIME TITANIUM BENEFACTOR AH Ambassador

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    Welcome to AH. Congratulations on your new addition to the family.

    I went to the website and grabbed the price list.

    I have zero doubt where they were hoping to be making their money?
    $3500 for an immature Kudu! :E Confused:



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  3. ActionBob

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    Welcome @nwduckhunter, look around the site a bit and especially the deals section. I met a guy at our local Man Mall who had bought a similar hunt as yours for $1000.... The outfitter told him normal price on a kudu was $4500 but he would give him a deal at $3500... He was still in denial when I told him how much the rest of us pay for a kudu.

    The sad truth is you might do the math and find that the money you spent on that auction hunt might be best considered a donation. Perhaps you can negotiate some agreement with the outfitter. Threaten to go and only shoot the included animal!
     
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  4. Wheels

    Wheels AH ENABLER AH Ambassador

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    :E Horrified::E Horrified::E Horrified:


    Welcome to AH.
     

  5. Sand Rat

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    Dam baboon should have a 24 c gold grill at 500 usd. :eek:

    Good luck on selling the hunt and welcome to AH.
     
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  6. jeff

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    The trophy fees are outrageous!!!
     

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    Some of their packages on their site look ok. But, $700/day for hunter and observer. For plains game? Not for me. Too many great outfitters on this site with reasonable daily rates and more competitive trophy fees.
     

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    For sure!
    If I was to buy that hunt, I would shoot that Impala or Blesbok only, and then spend the rest of the days looking at the animals together with the PH and not even take the gun with me when doing so.

    Welcome to AH and good luck selling the hunt nwduckhunter, but I doubt anyone here will buy it from you.
     

  10. JacoS

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    im still not convinced on donations... I don't knowive been trying to understand it for 15 years I just can not see the longevity.

    Mature kudu that are 12 years old can be 48" in Limpopo and 43" in the EC not immature, sorry @BRICKBURN have to differ.

    Rest of the prices seem to be in line with the industry norm to be quite honest (I asume its a Limpopo based company)

    My best always
     

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    Donation hunts can be a great thing for all the parties involved, provided that the donation was offered and purchased in the true spirit of the donation. Not that I am a big fan of SCI right now, but using them as an example, they only accept donations from reputable, well-established outfitters. This protects the bidder by assuring them that they will have a quality experience and that the money donated goes to the cause it was intended to benefit which is hopefully the support of hunters' rights and conservation.

    The SCI provides a printed auction guide well in advance for any prospective bidders to research. The guide also indicates whether part or all of the proceeds will go to the hosting organization. Unfortunately, I have also seen hunts donated via other venues where there is no screening process per se. The organizations are desperate for donations so basically they will accept any donation. These are the type of hunts where I have seen the most problems and questions arise. I would avoid any donation where the outfitter's contact information and the standard pricelist is not provided by the hosting organization well before the auction. I would also stress due diligence on the part of the bidder by doing research on the outfitter before a bid is placed.
     
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  12. BRICKBURN

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    Thanks for the reminder of the location. You are spot on.

    The trophy fee is still outrageous.
     

  13. jeff

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    Jaco, in researching prices I only found two other Limpopo outfits that high, most were considerably cheaper on trophy fees.
     

  14. JacoS

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    @jeff @BRICKBURN an insight. Kudu 50 and up and 54 and up are on the high quite correct...
    Rest of the prices are based on what will happen within the next two years in Limpopo like it or not, high volume outfits that rely on auctions .... And they do will have to adjust to these prices for longevity, ESPECIALLY THISE DONATING 40 + safaris a year.
    For those with large self owned properties and on the higher average and exclusive style operations, well gents that is longevity in SA.

    Logic in current markets dictate that, smaller (property wise) and higher volume (client wise), is not the way forward.... simple points in fact, common consensus, on show floors amongst hunters, regarding intensive breeding (which spills over directly onto high volume operations largely dependent on concessions land) and preference as far as property size or huntable land is concerned.

    Add the lion debacle, and we will find that the future of SA hunting lies in conservancies based along the same lines as, timbavati, balule and other joint portions of private land with a land owners accosiation and ecologist as manager. Or singular large portions of land.

    As destination we have (SA) a very specific niche and the way it is going is not the way forward.

    My best always
     
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    In all actuality current kudu pricing dictates that the outfitter is operating on a 30% loss.
     

  16. BRICKBURN

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    I get the loss leader idea.
    If the marketing plan includes donating that many hunts then they have to make their money somewhere.

    You already know where I prefer to hunt. :)
     
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    Thats crazy pricing !!
    If this is a look at the future of hunting prices in South Africa , I will only go there to catch a conecting flight somewhere else for a hunt .
    That is crazy stuff!
     

  18. Bobpuckett

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    LOL hey guys two of you go in on it give the guy his money back, each get to shoot an Impala or Blesbok each and you can spend the next six days laying around the pool drinking up the outfitters beer and get a roof over your head and three squares a day! Heck you have to go to prison here in the states to get that good a deal.
     
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    Are you saying he has brought these animals at auction for more than he is selling them to hunt on his property for ?
     

  20. Norwegianwoods

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    If you want to shoot one that is 58"+, the outfitter might buy a half tame one at an auction before your hunt and make a mock stalk for you to shoot it, and if he does, he will for sure not lose money on it.

    If those trophy prices will be the norm in South Africa in a not so distant future Jaco, then the numbers of hunters coming to South Africa will drop by a lot.
    And there will for sure not be many that will shoot Kudus.
    If you are right, I better save up quick for my last hunting trip to South Africa before it happens.
     

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