.416 Remington Magnum Recoil

[TERMINATOR]

One thing to remember is that literally, the only time I shoot a DG caliber gun off the bench is to get it sighted in. You pad your shoulder, put ear plugs in under a headset, get the rest up high so you are upright not leaning over low, don't crawl the stock and get through it. No need to hurry...take plenty of time. No need to hurry. Even if it takes a couple sessions. You survive that and you are home free.

After the sight in I am shooting these guns offhand and off sticks because that is how you will use them in the field. And shooting either of them offhand or off sticks is not bad at all.

Shooting them prone....whatever floats your boat but I see zero reason to. Same with bench after the sight in. I am not using these guns to reach animals 300-500 yards away. I am not gonna try and shoot a Buffalo or any DG past 130+\- yards max. And shooting DG is why you would have these guns.

I killed my Cape Buffalo in July with one shot from my .375 H&H at 85 yards. Stone dead with one shot. Even so, I have just purchased a Win 70 Safari Express in .416 and I have zero doubt I will be able to shoot it effectively...just got to survive the sight in process.

 

[KosieS]

Hi everyone. Would you advise a .375 H&H or .416 Rem mag for hunting in North America and hopefully Africa when I return home for a visit. I will be hunting moose, elk, bear and stopping a charge if need be. Especially with all the Grizzlies taking people here in BC at the moment where I hunt. I normally hunt with 308 and 300 win mag. This will be my last big rifle. And the 375 and 416 price the same so want some input. Thanks I normally hunt within 250 yards only.

 

[fourfive8]

416 Rem ref: OP
North America? Either one. Thinking forward to Africa- 416 Rem

 

[KosieS]

Thanks found a 357H&H for 1000$ less would you bite the bullet and still go 416 SafariExpress or go for the 375H&H sako?

 

[M70375!]

I have 375 H&H and 416 rem and every time I go hunting anything big , I take the 416, I. just love it. I have some serious neck problems, but I started out shooting the 375 with 235 gr loads for a while then on up to 300 gr. A little ;later on I got a 416 Rem and started shooting 350 gr loads and quickly found it to be pleasant to shoot and then moved up 400 gr which is my favorite load for Africa. I also used it for moose and have used the 350 gr loads for elk and might take it to Alaska in May for brown bear if I don't take my 338 Edge. The edge is weatherproof and much lighter to carry, but I would love to see the bear's reaction to the 416, I would probably use 350 gr loads for the bear. Overall I would much prefer the 416 with 350 gr loads over the 375, not that much more recoil and a devastating killer of large ornery critters. I am a reloader and if you are too, you can use staring loads for practice and just getting used to recoil, then move up to full power loads. You can always consider a muzzle brake and then it is very pleasant to shoot. My 2 cents worth.

 

[M70375!]

Thanks found a 357H&H for 1000$ less would you bite the bullet and still go 416 SafariExpress or go for the 375H&H sako?

take the Winchester every time

 

[OldCombatEngr]

Hello everyone, I have been asking around the different forums to get as much advice as possible.

I have been thinking about what caliber to pick for a dangerous game rifle, that I hope to use on a water buffalo hunt in the near future (they are similar to Cape Buffalo). So far I'm torn between a .375 H&H or a .416 Rem Mag, and I'm leaning slightly towards the latter for the added stopping power.

My question to the community is how bad is the recoil on a .416 Rem Mag? To try and create some perspective, the biggest caliber that I currently shoot regularly is a .308. How can the recoil be managed, and would the difference in recoil justify stepping down to a .375.

I would really appreciate any input from the community.

Sincere regards,
John8789

All I know is my .450/.400 NE 3-inch in a Ruger No. 1 definitely lets you know you are firing it. And the .416 Remington Magnum fires the same slug at 2,400-fps instead of 2,150-fps: 25% more recoil energy in rifles of the same weight. Shooting from the bench is not particularly "enjoyable." Either of my .308s gives a relatively mild nudge compared to the .450/.400. If the .416 rifle were heavier than the Ruger No. 1, well configured for offhand shooting--maybe with sticks to sight it in--I suspect most of us could deal with it. . . carefully.

 

[Franco]

I've shot water buffalo with both my 375 H&H and my 450/400. Neither rifle had trouble stopping them, of course, with any caliber - shot placement counts. I just got a 416 Rigby and have yet to shoot it, so I cannot comment on recoil. I will say this - the 375 is very manageable.

Enjoy your hunt.

 

[Juan Loco]

I greatly prefer the 416 over the 375 but I typically do not shoot animals outside of 200 yards. if I had to shoot further then 200 yards then the 375 would be a better choice.

I have used the 416 RM in the US and in Africa and find it to be a very versatile cartridge. my rifle is a Winchester M70 "Safari" with a Leupold VX6 1-6x24 and I strongly recommend this set up for anything that walks the planet.

if your concerned about recoil then I can assure you the 416 is quite manageable and easy to get used to. however it will require you to shoot it like a "big bore", if you treat it like a 308 then you will get beat up. if you live any where near WA state then you are more then welcome to try out my rifle.

-matt

For dangerous game, I'd use the .416 Rem Mag.

I greatly prefer the 416 over the 375 but I typically do not shoot animals outside of 200 yards. if I had to shoot further then 200 yards then the 375 would be a better choice.

I have used the 416 RM in the US and in Africa and find it to be a very versatile cartridge. my rifle is a Winchester M70 "Safari" with a Leupold VX6 1-6x24 and I strongly recommend this set up for anything that walks the planet.

if your concerned about recoil then I can assure you the 416 is quite manageable and easy to get used to. however it will require you to shoot it like a "big bore", if you treat it like a 308 then you will get beat up. if you live any where near WA state then you are more then welcome to try out my rifle.

-matt

 

[ldmay375]

Hi everyone. Would you advise a .375 H&H or .416 Rem mag for hunting in North America and hopefully Africa when I return home for a visit. I will be hunting moose, elk, bear and stopping a charge if need be. Especially with all the Grizzlies taking people here in BC at the moment where I hunt. I normally hunt with 308 and 300 win mag. This will be my last big rifle. And the 375 and 416 price the same so want some input. Thanks I normally hunt within 250 yards only.

I like both calibers. Have rifles in 375 H&H, 375 Ruger, 416 Remington, and 416 Ruger. 250 yards and under, I pick the 416 for North America. The 325 and 350 grain copper bullets are my pick for the 416's. The 270 gr coppers for the 375.