416 Rem Mag

[jwp475]

Velocity with the new barrel, 94 gr CFE223, 350 gr Speer

 

[Phil Giordano]

Hello jwp, have you ever tried Norma 203-B?

 

[jwp475]

Hello jwp, have you ever tried Norma 203-B?

I have not, but I do have some 2000MR to try

 

[Phil Giordano]

Ok... I asked for 203B because it's the powder I use, I can't find the your powders
It's a great caliber that is also quite pleasant to shot!
And close to 2700 with 350gr is stellar!

 

[jwp475]

 

[jwp475]

 

[Dr Ray]

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Very nice
I like my 416

 

[Dr Ray]

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Impressive
My 400 grain bullets get a tad over 2400

 

[csmiffy]

Getting over 2700 with Ar2206-got the powder back in the late 90s about 2 years before it turned to 2206H. 340gr Woodleigh weldcore. Under 1" groups at a hundy. Notes say 21 November 97
repeatable as I lent it to an acquaintance who had some of his own 2206 and achieved the same accuracy although he didn't listen to what I told him about the load and went a grain under.
My notes showed an average of 2770fps with an average of the low shot at 2730.
10 shots.
under book max too. only tried 2 loads and 3 shots of the lesser one.

 

[Dr Ray]

Getting over 2700 with Ar2206-got the powder back in the late 90s about 2 years before it turned to 2206H. 340gr Woodleigh weldcore. Under 1" groups at a hundy. Notes say 21 November 97
repeatable as I lent it to an acquaintance who had some of his own 2206 and achieved the same accuracy although he didn't listen to what I told him about the load and went a grain under.
My notes showed an average of 2770fps with an average of the low shot at 2730.
10 shots.
under book max too. only tried 2 loads and 3 shots of the lesser one.

That’s truly impressive
I personally like the 400 grain Woodleighs

 

[jwp475]

97 grains of 2000MR, 350 grain Speer 2757 FPS

 

[Phil Giordano]

Awesome...
Sad I can't find but Norma and Vihtavuori by now...
The velocity you reach makes our 416 on the same level of the Weatherby version, I guess with far less recoil

 

[Long Ranger]

Looks nice, I love it !

 

[C.W. Richter]

What will you use 350 gr softs for? I can get 2550 using 400s out of my Taylor, but it's not necessary with such a high SD and E bullet (2,450 is ideal and just under 6,000 ft-lbs of E.) Yours is now behaving like little brother 375 with lower SD bullets (fine for PG and American game, but not ideal for the 416s purpose-DG.) Some are wise to use the even heavier, high SD (penetrating power) 450 gr bullets on DG (with even lower V but higher SD and E for penetration and damage). A 350 solid would do the trick, but not ideal for the 1st shot.

 

[csmiffy]

What will you use 350 gr softs for? I can get 2550 using 400s out of my Taylor, but it's not necessary with such a high SD and E bullet (2,450 is ideal and just under 6,000 ft-lbs of E.) Yours is now behaving like little brother 375 with lower SD bullets (fine for PG and American game, but not ideal for the 416s purpose-DG.) Some are wise to use the even heavier, high SD (penetrating power) 450 gr bullets on DG (with even lower V but higher SD and E for penetration and damage). A 350 solid would do the trick, but not ideal for the 1st shot.

Well if he is like me he is trying to use it on game like deer.
Never made it to Africa (yet) but 400gr projectiles a bit much.
Although the only deer I have shot with it was with a barnes x point back in 2001.
Fire forming load with 375 HH brass.
Done for me professionally so dont have details.
Through the chest, lung and raked across maybe 6 ribs at about 40 odd yards.
Guarantee you that bullet didnt really mushroom in that situation.
Still dropped like a stone without a kick
Considering you drop a few grains in weight when using copper it was probably the same as a 400gr conventional softpoint.
I did get an exceptionally cheap.packet of federal 400 trophy bonded and would have got more as didnt have any pocket money for the week but really should get another next week

 

[jwp475]

Next I'm going to load the 350 TSX and I think that it will produce near identical velocities with the same powder charge

 

[jwp475]

OK, I figured out that 93 grains of 2000MR was at the base of the 350 TSX with lite compression. Loaded the 93 grains and recorded 2715 FPS, that's close enough and that bullet will take anything

 

[Phil Giordano]

It would be the perfect Kodiak Bear load in my perspective
Any sign of over pressure?

 

[jwp475]

It would be the perfect Kodiak Bear load in my perspective
Any sign of over pressure?

Pressure looked very good to me. Easy bolt lift and extraction. Normal looking primer

 

[Phil Giordano]

Well, I really have to thank you... The 416 Rem is my favourite of its class, and your studies about it is very useful and enteresting
May you tell us barrel lenght, brand of brass and primers?