I've often wondered just why the 404 Jeffrey is held with so much more high regard than the 416 Remington Mag. The 404 is thought to be the Holy Grail, and the 416 RM is barely more respected than the 458 Win Mag. They both have similar case capacity. They both shoot 400 grain bullets at 2250-2350 fps with no pressure problems whatsoever. They both can shoot 400 grain bullets at 2400 fps with somewhat higher pressure loads. They both can shoot 430-450 grain bullets at 2200+ fps with no pressure problems. Both can be shot comfortably in similar weight rifles. And I'm sure there are more valid comparisons. So, my question is.....if the 404 is supposed to be so much better than the 416 RM, why are there hardly any guns made for it? If the 404 is the holy grail, why in the world would Winchester or some more of the manufacturers not chamber for it? Especially since it's so popular, and would virtually fly off the shelf! Is it because it's rare and hard to find, that it's thought of so highly? I know the 404 definitely has history on it's side, but a lot of that history was made by game department folks who simply shot the 404 because that's what they were issued. If the 416 RM was around back then, would it have been used just as readily as the 404, since they are virtually identical in performance? Pot stirred.....And Go!