416 rem, 416 rigby, 458 win

[BoarHog375]

If you were going to buy one which one would you go with? Based off ammo availability, recoil, and availability of guns in said caliber.

 

[Uncontrolled_round_feed]

416 Rem

 

[Alan D P]

I too would buy .416 Rem. It's a great caliber with manageable recoil, to me. Handloading is quite easy too. Ammo is/has been available for this caliber, almost universally. Swift, Barnes, Hornady and other bullets for reloading are usually available.

 

[BourbonTrail]

Have shot all three. 416 Rem for me.

Main reasons: Availability & Flexibility.

The Rigby is classic, but it’s pricey to feed.
The 458 Win is great, but it’s short ranged with typical loads.

 

[BryceM]

I like the .416 Rigby. Big, voluminous, low-pressure case, an old classic. There’s nothing wrong with the .416 Rem though, especially if you don’t reload. I’m not a huge fan of the .458 Win.

 

[CZDiesel]

Can’t go wrong with any of the three truth be told. The 416 Remington is going to be the most affordable, the 416 Rigby the most sexy, and the 458 the hardest hitting.
All will get the job done and have a great history doing so!
I’d say decide on what rifle, brand, and budget and then grab which ever one that you see first that you like.
Also make sure you can handle the recoil of the 458 that may also be a deciding factor…

 

[Safari Dave]

I like the .416 Rigby.


In the US, factory ammo for the Remington is cheaper.


I have no idea about what ammo is available in Africa, I would suspect that Rigby ammo is more available, but I don't know.

 

[spike.t]

416 rigby...cos I have always had one since 1989...love it

 

[Tally-Ho HUNTING SAFARIS]

416 rem…..all day

 

[KJE81]

Of those three I would go with the .416 Rigby. But since I hardly expect to shot more then perhaps in best case a elephant and a couple of buffalos in the future I decided to stay with the .375 H&H for myself. I believe it makes more sense at home (moose, brown bear, wild boar, red stag).

 

[CZDiesel]

I accidentally posted this in another thread but will repost for the sake of the OP… In the DG cartridge thread @Fatback had said the 458 was uncomfortable shooting at the range so this was my reply…

“I hear you on that and that is why I said to the OP to make sure he can handle the recoil of a 458. My 375 H&H is 10lbs and a pussycat to shoot. My 458WinMag is 8lbs without a scope and bases and hits your shoulder at over 70ftlbs! It’s a handful!”

So again when looking for a DG rifle/cartridge make sue you are comfortable and can shoot the heavy recoiling cartridges. There are no flies on the 375 H&H and it is fairly easy to shoot, heck it recoils less than my 338WinMag!

 

[grand veneur]

If you were going to buy one which one would you go with? Based off ammo availability, recoil, and availability of guns in said caliber.

The 458 Winchester Magnum is primarily a cartridge for DG hunting and that at short range. A use for other kind of hunts, above all PG in Africa, is therefore very limited.

The choice must be made between the cartridges 416 Remington Magnum or 416 Rigby. I would choose the 416 Rigby cartridge, not for practical reasons but because of its special nice design and the tradition of hunting in Africa. The rifles caliber 416 Rigby unfortunately but have some disadvantages, especially the price of most of these rifles, but due to the size of the cartridge, also their size and weight. Rifles caliber 416 Remington Magnum can be made smaller and lighter, but this can be noticeable in the recoil of this rifles. However, the recoil of both rifles is generally very comparable. I don't know which cartridges are more readily available. I rather think that the one like the other are, depending where you are, easy or difficult to get.

From a purely practical point of view, it is better to go with the cartridge 416 Remington Magnum. There are more and cheaper rifles, and the working is the same.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Of the two .416’s I would buy the .416 Remington, although Rigby does sound cooler. Both ammo is available. If you don’t hand load. Call Hendeshots or the other custom ammo loaders. Tell them your rifle specifics. And they will build you a load ladder. And dial you in.

Buy a .416 and then eventually get into the .458 and above if wanted

 

[375Fox]

I’d go 416 Rigby. You’ll find the Rigby ammo more readily available in more remote camps if something were to happen to your ammo. Nothing wrong with any of the choices though.

 

[VINOYASADO]

.416 RemMag

 

[PARA45]

I have both 416s, and I like the Rigby more because of the history, cool factor. However, it is more expensive to feed than the 416 Remington. For this year's buffalo hunt, I'll be taking the Rigby, and a 300 H&H for plains game. Why? Because both calibers deserve to go to Africa.

 

[uplander01]

For Africa I like the 416 Rigby, only downside is the rifles are a bit larger and heavier than a rifle built for 416 Rem. Upside I think they are easier to shoot and handle the heat and pressures of Africa really well. I also like how non-belted magnums feed and feel in a CRF action. IMO all the low 40's a superb for big and dangerous game. I don't know when using store bought premium ammo if either is cheaper or not, If you handload pick what you like there is little difference in cost.

 

[Luvthunt]

Have/had all three (458 Lott) used on different hunts. No difference on animal effect withe either 416. The 458 seemed to have a greater effect but I would not swear to it.
I would take whatever rifle I liked/enjoyed shooting the most and feel well gunned.

 

[AZDAVE]

The 416 Rigby.
If you reload all the 416's cost about the same.

The 416 rem is a bit cheaper to shoot if you only shoot factory 110 a box vs 150 in the rigby average prices. but in the long term not much of a difference.

If you are getting into big bores based on the price of ammo you should stay at 375 H&H level of rifles.

 

[doublegunz]

If you were going to buy one which one would you go with? Based off ammo availability, recoil, and availability of guns in said caliber.