318 Westley Richards

[nztimb]

What would you all think of as the best barrel profile for a 318 WR. The barrel is going to be a one off so wont have to stick with factory profiles. I will be stocking the rifle as iron sights only so I have taken that into account when putting together a proposed profile
Starting with the Kreiger page and the #3 medium sporter with these changes
Finished at 25 inches
.570 at the muzzle ie .120 either side over groove dia this will keep it from being muzzle heavy but have enough to hang nicely in hand
I would reduce the neck dia (G) to .815 and all up this should keep the finished weight just under the 3 lb mark to keep the rifle nice and portable but still have the weight where it will enhance the handling.

 

[Red Leg]

#2 (my preference) or #3 will be the basis of a very useful .318. I also like the 27" length.

 

[stug]

I just measured my 9.3x62 Mauser and it is .565" at the muzzle. It is great to carry and shoot so I think you are on the right lines. It is about 23" barrel.

 

[nztimb]

The rifle (UNFORTUNATELY) is not for me and the guy is not in favour of the longer barrel. I first sugested the traditional 28 in length but I think I can convince him to go for 25 in

 

[spike.t]

22 inch and a rifle weighing 8lbs

 

[nztimb]

I just heard from the guy the rifle is to be for that he is in aggreement with my barrel proposal except that the length F is reduced from 6 in to 3 1/2. That shoud reduce a few more oz from the barrel weight

 

[spike.t]

I just heard from the guy the rifle is to be for that he is in aggreement with my barrel proposal except that the length F is reduced from 6 in to 3 1/2. That shoud reduce a few more oz from the barrel weight

yup you have lost me there.....way too many things in that option diagram......but with what i have seen you make/create on here i know you will come up with something special but as i said 22 inches and 8lbs as i know best...... look forward to seeing the finished product and the stages in between

 

[nztimb]

The 318 traditionally had a barrel in the 28 inch range and as this build will be to look as if it was made in the 1920's to 30's Rigby shop, a 22 inch barrel would look wrong in many ways. Express sights with single square bridge and a barrel band sling eye dictate the longer barrel to balance visually.

 

[Red Leg]

Please talk him out of that stubby barrel.

 

[nztimb]

The decission has been made as to the barrel profile and while it may not be my choice, it is what he wants so that is what it will be
This is the transition from chamber dia down to the start of the taper that will be the pattern


With these dimensions



This is a pic of the style he wants although the banded rear sight will be further down the forestock so it is about mid point with the forestock being in the 7 1/2 in range

 

[wislnwings]

I've always been intrigued by the 318 WR. I'll be watching to see the finished rifle.

 

[CAustin]

I too will watch big this thread. I have been amazed at your work sir!

 

[nztimb]

With the rifle above I like the way that the lines around the ejection port and along the forstock edge are slightly softened so that it denotes a rifle of ( a certain) age rather than the crisp sharp lines or a recently completed stocking job and that is what I will be recomending that I do for Sean.

 

[HunterX]

With the rifle above I like the way that the lines around the ejection port and along the forstock edge are slightly softened so that it denotes a rifle of ( a certain) age rather than the crisp sharp lines or a recently completed stocking job and that is what I will be recomending that I do for Sean.

I see this thread is from forever ago, but I was curious how the rifle turned out. I am looking at building a custom Mauser on a 1909 Argentine action, and am thinking about barrel profiles. So I was very curious how this ended up looking. Also, I wonder if there is a way to make a hidden threaded barrel up to the front sight, or if it would make the barrel too long. I appreciate the recoil and sound reduction of a suppressor when shooting at the range. @nztimb

 

[Jefferry404]

Sir, go to see a classic build. I design custom integral barrels and have an accurate spreadsheet for barrel weight. I used a Mauser 98 for the shank dimensions. Due to the 25.4mm diameter at the end of the transition, (G) or (B) below, quite a weighty barrel, 1.70kg or 3.7 lbs
Steve
below is from my calculator:

A	B	C	D	E	F	R (radius)	G	H+	Weight	muzzle wall
WR 318 (mm)	0.318	33.02	25.40	15.24	27.31	60.33	647.70	5.71	27.94	15.88	3.744	3.58

 

[HunterX]

Sir, go to see a classic build. I design custom integral barrels and have an accurate spreadsheet for barrel weight. I used a Mauser 98 for the shank dimensions. Due to the 25.4mm diameter at the end of the transition, (G) or (B) below, quite a weighty barrel, 1.70kg or 3.7 lbs
Steve
below is from my calculator:

A	B	C	D	E	F	R (radius)	G	H+	Weight	muzzle wall
WR 318 (mm)	0.318	33.02	25.40	15.24	27.31	60.33	647.70	5.71	27.94	15.88	3.744	3.58

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Thank you for the information, it is greatly appreciated.