300 Win mag, 300 Wby mag or 338 Win mag?

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Hello All,
I received a Burris Eliminator III 4x16 scope as a gift any opinions on what to put it on.
I want a larger caliber for bigger game and this is a long range scope good to 1000+ yards.
Not that I will be shooting at that distance, but I want the best option for the scope.
I have a 300 win mag and a 300 wby mag, I was thinking 338 win mag?
Any opinions on the Burris Eliminator 111 scope?
Thank you all in advance for your help.
TomC
 

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Hello All,
I received a Burris Eliminator III 4x16 scope as a gift any opinions on what to put it on.
I want a larger caliber for bigger game and this is a long range scope good to 1000+ yards.
Not that I will be shooting at that distance, but I want the best option for the scope.
I have a 300 win mag and a 300 wby mag, I was thinking 338 win mag?
Any opinions on the Burris Eliminator 111 scope?
Thank you all in advance for your help.
TomC
Would love you guys thoughts as thinking of buying one too for my culling rifle.
 

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You didn't say what you intend hunt? But here is my 2c anyway, for what it's worth. Go .338 just because you have the flexibility to shoot better SD bullets ranging from 160g to 300g.
 

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You didn't say what u intend to hunt, but here is my 2 Rand FWIW...............go 300 Win.....................while this is one of my three least favorite calibers, it has a lot of advantages. It is a commonly used sniper caliber, so must be accurate. It is available in Africa everywhere I have been. Many have never even heard of a 338. Compare a 220 grain Nosler SSP from the 300 with a 225 from the 338 at 200 meters and reflect on difference. Unless you need something like the 285 grain Barnes, the 300 Win is a lot of cartridge.................................PS...........I have only looked thru the Burris, but as far as SD goes, it is difficult to beat the 308 bullets..............just look at the Sierra 220 MK...................(BTW my least favorite are the 25-06 and the 338)............................your milage may differ..........................................FWB
 

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The 300 Win Mag will take down most animals. As mention it depends on what you intend to hunt. I don't think you can go to far wrong with that load.
 

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Would not think twice about getting the 338, I have shot (not hunted) Kudu at over 500 meters with a 308, would have preferred a bigger hole in the animal as with the loss of felocity over distance expansion becomes a issue. Have a friend that has used the Burris effectively out to 500 meters in SA, he swears by it.
 

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The .338 is my favorite PG round. And were it legal, I wouldn't hesitate to kill a buffalo with it. The issue is the scope; I just could never bring myself to put that much glass on one of mine. So since we are matching a rifle to the scope rather than the other way around, I think you already have the ideal choice - that .300 wby. With that combination, you can go anywhere in the world and hunt anything but the largest DG. And if you have really deep pockets, it would be about perfect for a Marco Polo or Ibex in the Stans. And I guess if you did show up at a Namibian ranch with it, your PH would already be raising an eyebrow over the Weatherby, so you might as well add a 16 power scope and complete his expectations. :)

Please don't read this as criticism, but I really don't get the high-power variables for 99.9% of the hunting I might do. Such a glass is overkill for any African hunting. In fact the people who I have seen use them, were actually distracted by them - constantly fiddling with power or prallex adjustments (even worse with a trajectory dial or light switch). With the exception of very, very rare applications (that one shot at a Marco Polo at 550 yards), I am convinced most of that stuff is designed to bag hunters' dollars rather than game.
 

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.................. I am convinced most of that stuff is designed to bag hunters' dollars rather than game.

Just like golfing. :)
 

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Hello All,
I received a Burris Eliminator III 4x16 scope as a gift any opinions on what to put it on.
I want a larger caliber for bigger game and this is a long range scope good to 1000+ yards.
Not that I will be shooting at that distance, but I want the best option for the scope.
I have a 300 win mag and a 300 wby mag, I was thinking 338 win mag?
Any opinions on the Burris Eliminator 111 scope?
Thank you all in advance for your help.
TomC

There isn't much practical difference between the 300 Win. Mag. and the 300 Weatherby Mag. The only reasons I can see for going for one rather than the other would be availability of brass and ammunition and cost. Either of them would be better long range performers than the 338 Win. Mag.

I used to be more of a fan of high power scopes than I am now. Even if a scope is goot to 1,000 yards, most guns and most shooters aren't. For bench rest shooting it's handy to have a high power scope. For hunting even to the 500 or 600 yard range (which usually won't happen in Africa), I think 10X is more than adequate. I also agree with one of the posters above who said fiddling with the parallax adjustment is a worthless distraction when hunting.

As for opinions on the Burris Eliminator 111 scope since I've never used one I can't offer much. What I would suggest is going to the web sites of some purveyors of said scope such as MidwayUSA and reading the feedback there. I had been considering a Burris handgun scope until I read some feedback. Burris' rifle scopes may be different.
 

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I am a fan of the 300 win mag for several reasons, its flat shooting and very accurate, ammo is easly found just about anywhere, ammo is much cheaper than the other 2 calibers mentioned, more bullet options if you handload, and I just flat like the caliber. I've killed everything from coyotes to pigs all the way up to gemsbuck, simitar oryx, and blue wildebeest with my 300 win mag. Not to mention untold numbers of whitetail.
 

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There isn't much practical difference between the 300 Win. Mag. and the 300 Weatherby Mag.

As a handloader, I'd take the Weatherby over the Winchester, for the longer neck.

I'd also prefer either one in a good single shot so I have more flexibility with OAL. Plus a 26 inch barrel is still handy.

But I am getting off-topic now....
 

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Hands down..the .338 Win Mag, my "go to" gun since 1983. Only scope it's ever had is a Leopold 2x7. From hippo to bobcats, game out to 500 yds, its never disappointed me. Like Red Leg, I would use it on buffalo if it was legal.
 

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Personally I like high power scopes :)
But I understand that others prefer lower power scopes.
I really don't understand why some people have problems using high power scopes when hunting.
I guess they need to practice with them much more and learn how to use them well.

I have used 5-15, 6-18 and 6-24 scopes for many years and I have no problems to shoot quick and good shots at short distances too.
All without fiddling with parallax and whatever :)
I have never missed or missed a shot opportunity because of high power on a scope.
It is all about how you shoot with them at shorter distances.

I have been shooting clays with a 3x scope on a shotgun just to prove my point to some people.

When it comes to what cartridge to choose for your scope, it all depends on what you want to use it for.
If you want a proper long range tool, then I highly recommend the .338 Lapua.

I think the 338 win is a great cartridge, but not a really good one for long range use.
 

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gday Norwegian woods,on the scattergun with the 3 power scope ,do you leave both eyes open ?
what about the powerfull scopes?
I find after 6 power I close my right eye, which then takes longer to center the cross hairs
 

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gday Norwegian woods,on the scattergun with the 3 power scope ,do you leave both eyes open ?
what about the powerfull scopes?
I find after 6 power I close my right eye, which then takes longer to center the cross hairs

I always shoot with both my eyes open.
No matter if it is bow, rifle with open sights, rifle with low power scopes, rifle with high power scopes, shotgun or a handgun.

Only time I might close my left eye is if I am going to take a long range shot at a small target.

My right eye is very dominant and I still see very well.
I can see that there might be a problem for people where the other eye is dominant or easily takes over if the view of the dominant eye is not so good.
There are ways to help with this.
 

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