steve white
AH legend
Most people in countries outside America speak more and one and often several languages. It is not prioritized here and more's the pity. I struggle with languages.
That is ill mannered in any situation, but worse if you are with a paying client.I was in a camp in SA in 2018. My PH had the habit of carrying on full conversations with his other PH buddy while I sat there by myself clueless as to what they were discussing. I felt that was very rude. I’m here paying for a hunt and these guys wouldn’t even include me in their conversation? I feel that if you’re paying for a hunt, they should at least have the common courtesy of including you in their conversation in camp.
I haven’t had this issue in Zimbabwe, as those guys predominately speak English anyway.
I've seen that and experienced that myself. I think feedback is warranted and fair in those situations.I was in a camp in SA in 2018. My PH had the habit of carrying on full conversations with his other PH buddy while I sat there by myself clueless as to what they were discussing. I felt that was very rude. I’m here paying for a hunt and these guys wouldn’t even include me in their conversation? I feel that if you’re paying for a hunt, they should at least have the common courtesy of including you in their conversation in camp.
I haven’t had this issue in Zimbabwe, as those guys predominately speak English anyway.
Does Foook Sakes count if the accent is heavy enough?That was the full scope of my working knowledge as well
Funny you bring that up. Ourselves and the client that was in camp before my wife and I (a fellow AH member) experienced the same thing you mentioned. Overall I had a pretty amazing experience, but the talking past us at the dinner table and while on tour was rude.I was in a camp in SA in 2018. My PH had the habit of carrying on full conversations with his other PH buddy while I sat there by myself clueless as to what they were discussing. I felt that was very rude. I’m here paying for a hunt and these guys wouldn’t even include me in their conversation? I feel that if you’re paying for a hunt, they should at least have the common courtesy of including you in their conversation in camp.
I haven’t had this issue in Zimbabwe, as those guys predominately speak English anyway.
I was at a gathering with some friends in Namibia once and the most precious little 4 year old started to sing Twinkle Twinkle Little Star for me in Afrikaans. The mother of the child told her that I could not speak Afrikaans so immediately she performed the song in perfect English. I felt like I had just earned my black belt in dumbass.Lekker.
It is an easy language. I could speak it by the time I turned one.![]()
Have some basic words but looking for a good app. What are you using?I’m learning Afrikaans.
It isn’t, by anyone’s measure, necessary in the least.
Reasons I’m doing this:
1) I’m a nerd and am intrigued by this language spoken in an area of the world I hope to visit and experience with some irregular frequency.
2) respect for my hosts and their culture. Even though nearly everyone speaks English as a necessary part of commerce in southern Africa, Id like to attempt to show my respect by communicating as the locals do.
3) on my first safari there were more than a few times I wished I knew just a few words and phrases. Being the only client in camp and not being able to participate fully or grasping what was being said, whether at the skinning shed, the bakkie, and even the dinner table frustrated me. Plus, this might keep my PH’s from having to constantly repeat and relay to me what is going on.
4) it’s an easy language to learn for a person like me who’s first language is English! No gendered nouns, simple subject-verb-object sentence structure, just like English.
5) enriches the experience of my upcoming 26 day two country safari and adds one more skill that I own and can carry around with me daily as a memory of my time in Africa.
6) it’s cheap! Monetarily it’s $.99/month for an interactive app plus time.
Have any other AHers done this, or is it just me.
So far I’ve made sure it doesn’t happen again by hunting in Zimbabwe the last three safaris. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed my two hunts is SA/Kalahari, but the hunts with D&Y in Zimbabwe have been a bit better experience for me.Funny you bring that up. Ourselves and the client that was in camp before my wife and I (a fellow AH member) experienced the same thing you mentioned. Overall I had a pretty amazing experience, but the talking past us at the dinner table and while on tour was rude.
I chalked it up to a form of mild social retardation and determined to make sure that it doesn’t happen again.